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breakaholic
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Finland

Alrighty, I promised to give some feedback when I was quite "loaded" (sorry really didn't remember until checked this thread again ).

Mp3 download doesn't work for me so have to settle with lo-fi listening, means that this time I don't concentrate to soundquality & instuments balance at all.
First thing is that this song is quite typical trancey piano track, it's far too repetitive for my taste but melodies are alright.This Song has that most typical bassline there is in trance (junttibasso in Finnish), more diversity to it and also drums need some extra touch plus these days I usually pay attention to overuse of snarerolls, IMO those should be avoided as much as possible . Sorry if I sound too demanding but this is quite average song. Still simple things tend to sell best so good luck with the release .


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clubzero
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Scandinavia

Hi. I really wish you'd gotten the mp3 file (it's also up at the mp3.com site).. nevertheless, good constructive feedback I'm thankful for.

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breakaholic
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Registered: Jun 2001
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Let's try again then with more reliable soundquality.

+ intro, especially good sounding strings & wide stereo sound.
+ overall sound, mastered?
+ background pads/strings
+ piano sound

- piano is too cliche & repetitive (I see this as negative side but this whole song is actually based to that piano pattern and there's no need you to take this as negative comment)
- kickdrum is too weak, more punch to it
- bassline, well actually it doesn't sound too bad now but still you could work with a bit .
- quite typical clap & hihat patterns, extra loop would do some good.

snarerolls belongs to neutral side, everybody has their own taste about these .

Well, I'll give this song 8/10 now but there are some work to do...


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clubzero
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Hey I really appreciate that you took the time to get the hi-quality version. Yes it was mastered at Z-Trading LTD, Espoo. Cost me 85 € by the way.. .. but I think it was wort it.

Yes.. us artists are hard to please and I agree with your comments about the snare rolls and hihats.. by the way, I've written pure breakbeat & drum n' bass aswell so I know what you mean. Usually I do spice up my trance tracks with breakbeats and it's my advice to other artists who ask me how to give that extra spark.

In this particular track the strings/pads are very dominant and the breakbeats didn't really work well (seemed like I'd forced them there) so I left them out. I worked closely to achieve the wide stereo image you mentioned.

It's good we make tracks to please artists aswell. I mean, if they please you, then it's bloody likely it will please "Joe Average". On the other hand, I doubt that "Joe Average" will think that OMG, another hihat/clap pattern... I can't stand it.. anyway u get the point.

It's quite funny actually.. I performed a little test a little while ago to some friends who don't have anything to do with electronic music or music at all as artists. I put some commercial trance (Trance 2000) in the stereo and I asked a couple of questions such as how do they hear "claps" or "hihats"... no matter how I explained they listened and couldn't understand what I meant. They could understand the rhytm and "dum ts", but I bet that if same clap & hihat samples were used in every track they wouldn't have noticed since the melodies change with every track... so people who don't know much about music (= majority of the ppl who buy) don't stop to think these things..

Anyway, thanks for your feedback (again ).


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