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Originally posted by Magnetonium [COLOR=FF7F50] In Russia, these cultures HAVE THEIR OWN republics, their language in those regiions is equal to the official language, they have their own parliament, laws, economy, history, culture and monuments. What about YOUR country? COLOR]

Oh, so the Russians MAKE them have their own republic so they can't participate in RUSSIAS republic. Yeah tell me how that is not SEGREGATION?? Does the Jewish oblast sound familiar? Its segregation! They are just like here being treated like second class citizens.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Does your classes teach about other cultures' values in your area? Like the Navajo Indians. You probably dont even know what state(s) they live in!!!

Arizona and New mexico and states close to that. I bet you know where the Jews live in Russia. Afterall they HAVE ALL REGION NAMED FOR THEM TOO LIVE IN!

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Was there every a Russian premier or a president? Mayber there were Tsarinas but that was different. And another thing I would love to vote for a female president. Sex has nothing to do with leadership. My mayor is a female and she is good. I was spitting on WHITE russians. Because they pick on everybody else. NOT all White Ruskies. But many do. And yeah my family wasn't here for that type of segregation. And trust me tha USA will be a better place when those who were alive than die out.

Haha ... Gorbachev, Krushchev = Ukrainians, Stalin = Georgian, Lenin = born Tatarstan, etc. etc.

Russian rep. in the WHOLE FAR EAST of Russia is Tatarian. Russian economy minister is ethnic Volga German.

We dont pick on others as much as you do. I lived in Russia in 1990s, I've seen how western businesses manipulate and impoverish our country. How they rip their profits and dont give a shit about developing the infrastructure, or building schools or anything like that.

Last time I checked its US and other corporate interests bullying the world. Don't you think?

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Haha ... Gorbachev, Krushchev = Ukrainians, Stalin = Georgian, Lenin = born Tatarstan, etc. etc. Russian rep. in the WHOLE FAR EAST of Russia is Tatarian. Russian economy minister is ethnic Volga German. We dont pick on others as much as you do. I lived in Russia in 1990s, I've seen how western businesses manipulate and impoverish our country. How they rip their profits and dont give a shit about developing the infrastructure, or building schools or anything like that. Last time I checked its US and other corporate interests bullying the world. Don't you think?

Yes and no. Not every corporation does bad. And don't you think it takes corrupt politicians to succeed in ripping a country off? If they cared for russia than they wouldn't allow them to do it. however russians care for money and the opportunity to make easy money is too alluring for some russians. Just ask the oligarches and the clerks who sold them the land.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Oh, so the Russians MAKE them have their own republic so they can't participate in RUSSIAS republic. Yeah tell me how that is not SEGREGATION?? Does the Jewish oblast sound familiar? Its segregation! They are just like here being treated like second class citizens.

For the love of .... in the areas where Tatars lived, they were given their own republic. Okay?

aND alll kinds of great Russian leaders, historians, artists, teachers and scientists were jews, kalmiks, tatars, bashkirs, etc. etc.

We dont segregate, you dont know anything about a republic do you?

Ugh, forget it, I am not a teacher, this forum sucks ass. I am going to sleepp.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium For the love of .... in the areas where Tatars lived, they were given their own republic. Okay? aND alll kinds of great Russian leaders, historians, artists, teachers and scientists were jews, kalmiks, tatars, bashkirs, etc. etc. We dont segregate, you dont know anything about a republic do you? Ugh, forget it, I am not a teacher, this forum sucks ass. I am going to sleepp.

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i don't know enough about the conflict between Russia and Georgia to comment but i strongly disagree with: "ISNT IT WHY HE ALLOWED CHECHNYA is own president, parliament and they actually voted on referendum to stay within Russia!"

Russia raped and pillaged Chechnya laying waste to Grozny and leaving an estimated 80,000 Chechyn civilians dead. At one stage there would be 6 girls to every male in Grosny because once a teenage boy would reach 13 he would face a very difficult decision: Join the Chechyn resistence in the mountains or face the very real possibility of being detained, tortured, killed, or "dissapeared" by the Russian military and the death squads that operate under cover of night. To minimise the body count the Russian army is known to have tied groups of people together and place explosives on them to scatter their remains so that an overall death count will never be determined; the documentary i saw showed dogs gnawing on human limbs that they had found around the neighbourhood

http://www.crimesofwar.org/chechnya...-interview.html

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid Yes and no. Not every corporation does bad. And don't you think it takes corrupt politicians to succeed in ripping a country off? If they cared for russia than they wouldn't allow them to do it. however russians care for money and the opportunity to make easy money is too alluring for some russians. Just ask the oligarches and the clerks who sold them the land.

Look at Iraq - look at US government and corporate support than first CRIPPLED the country with heavy sanctions resulting in deaths of over 500,000 people from hunger and lack of fresh water, then they illegally invade the country and set off a secterian war which doesnt seem to end.

Russia is not invading any countries. Just defending its integrity and working fair with its neighbours, while Georgia, Ukraine and NATO are ripping Russians off.

That Wiki link you provided me actually said they proved Ukraine was ripping Russia by 4.5 billion dollars every year.
You ignored the fact that even though you think what Russia did was unfair, you are very OK with what Georgia is doing.

Seems like you confortably assume you "taught me a lesson" while you havent really explained yourself at all, with all the holes in your story.

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Originally posted by tathi i don't know enough about the conflict between Russia and Georgia to comment but i strongly disagree with: "ISNT IT WHY HE ALLOWED CHECHNYA is own president, parliament and they actually voted on referendum to stay within Russia!" Russia raped and pillaged Chechnya laying waste to Grozny and leaving an estimated 80,000 Chechyn civilians dead. At one stage there would be 6 girls to every male in Grosny because once a teenage boy would reach 13 he would face a very difficult decision: Join the Chechyn resistence in the mountains or face the very real possibility of being detained, tortured, killed, or "dissapeared" by the Russian military and the death squads that operate under cover of night. To minimise the body count the Russian army is known to have tied groups of people together and place explosives on them to scatter their remains so that an overall death count will never be determined; the documentary i saw showed dogs gnawing on human limbs that they had found around the neighbourhood http://www.crimesofwar.org/chechnya...-interview.html

All wars involve acts of crimes, and yes the Russian soldiers committed crimes too. BUT so did Chechen fighters. WHat about Beslan, Nord-Ost, the suicide bombings, and apartment bombings in 1999? WHAT ABOUT THAT?

Have you seen the recent developments in Chechnya? Grozny is getting rebuilt, new bridges and telephone lines, Russia declared amnesty for fighters in the mountains, many troops have been withdrawn and only internal police/MVD is left. Things are becoming quite peaceful. Stop living in the past and look AT THE CURRENT PICTURE.

Look at Iraq, and there's way worse things going on there and noone is talking about how USA should pull out of there, its perfectly fine. Oh, and Australia is supporting this INVASION too with troops!

And so you think USA didnt commit any war crimes in Iraq?

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I certainly didn't expect this conversation to turn into a Russia versus USA fight.


Nice one guys.

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Originally posted by jdat I certainly didn't expect this conversation to turn into a Russia versus USA fight. Nice one guys.

I'm not too blame for this. But I did put spice to the flavor (seeing as to how Im a latino you know spice to the flavor you know?)




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