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DOOMBOT
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quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Lol... you guys should start playing more vinyl, you have to correct CONSTANTLY throughout the mix, locking and walking away is much much more difficult (even on 1200's).

Now that I've been playing with Torq for a week or so, I go back to my CDJ-1000's and it's a no-brainer.

Yeah, cds are easy as shit.

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nchs09
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iv played vinyl after learning with cdj's...

its preatty easy... just correcting. it just takes longer.


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iammesol
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I used to beatmatch with belt decks...

quit your crying

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sleepydragon
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quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Lol... you guys should start playing more vinyl, you have to correct CONSTANTLY throughout the mix, locking and walking away is much much more difficult (even on 1200's).

Now that I've been playing with Torq for a week or so, I go back to my CDJ-1000's and it's a no-brainer.


i do play on vinyl thanks so my point still stands it must be you that should practice more


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Allayla
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quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Lol... you guys should start playing more vinyl, you have to correct CONSTANTLY throughout the mix, locking and walking away is much much more difficult (even on 1200's).

Now that I've been playing with Torq for a week or so, I go back to my CDJ-1000's and it's a no-brainer.

Not true, i rarely have to correct during a mix if i take the effort to really get it locked. Most of the time i take my headphones off to mix so i can hear the eq changes through the speakers... playing on tech 12's.

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Ryan0751
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That's IF you get it locked. Who has 2 minutes to move the pitch slider in increments THAT small? And sometimes you just CAN'T do it no matter how much time you waste.

Just get it really close and ride the pitch a little, it's inaudible if you do it right.

Getting CDJ's (one's with .02%) to lock IS much easier.

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Not true, i rarely have to correct during a mix if i take the effort to really get it locked. Most of the time i take my headphones off to mix so i can hear the eq changes through the speakers... playing on tech 12's.

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Ryan0751
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I wasn't pointing fingers...

Don't be so sensitive! Geeze.

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i do play on vinyl thanks so my point still stands it must be you that should practice more

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Allayla
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quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
That's IF you get it locked. Who has 2 minutes to move the pitch slider in increments THAT small? And sometimes you just CAN'T do it no matter how much time you waste.

Just get it really close and ride the pitch a little, it's inaudible if you do it right.

Getting CDJ's (one's with .02%) to lock IS much easier.

True, there are some songs that are a right bitch to beatmatch... im just curious as to how much easier cdj 1000's are compared to tech 1200's, aren't 1200's .02% as well?

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Ryan0751
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Well 1200's (except the M5G) use analog pitch sliders, so there's no real "increment". But there are a lot of things that affect the pitch... the platter wow/flutter, the needles, the records, etc.

With a CDJ, since it's all digital, there is no waver whatsover. I calculated it out once, if you get a track to within +/- .02% of the speed of the other record, it won't drift for several minutes.

The other thing with a CDJ-1000 is that even if it does drift (which it will, we aren't perfect), you can grab the platter and reliably correct the mix. Make a little pitch adjustment, etc.

With 1200's, obviously you can touch the record or spin the spindle, but it's easier to overcorrect.

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Originally posted by starboy
True, there are some songs that are a right bitch to beatmatch... im just curious as to how much easier cdj 1000's are compared to tech 1200's, aren't 1200's .02% as well?

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quote:
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Well 1200's (except the M5G) use analog pitch sliders, so there's no real "increment". But there are a lot of things that affect the pitch... the platter wow/flutter, the needles, the records, etc.

With a CDJ, since it's all digital, there is no waver whatsover. I calculated it out once, if you get a track to within +/- .02% of the speed of the other record, it won't drift for several minutes.

The other thing with a CDJ-1000 is that even if it does drift (which it will, we aren't perfect), you can grab the platter and reliably correct the mix. Make a little pitch adjustment, etc.

With 1200's, obviously you can touch the record or spin the spindle, but it's easier to overcorrect.

no dj can correct 0.02% acurate

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Ryan0751
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That was kinda my point... anything under .05% and you're good. Don't worry 'bout it

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no dj can correct 0.02% acurate

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The Drow
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Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Yup. I rented a pair of CDJ 800's (rent to buy, technically) and the first thing I did was put some tape over the BPM counter.

You can just turn it off lol.

Omer


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