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winston
ultraviolet catastrophe



Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Yggdrasill

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
Music evolves. I never thought things that sound like bad electro-house would ever be called trance. Can't help evolution.


Exactly.

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chesco
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Glasgow

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
People keep talking about minimal, but classical labels like basic channel are not mentioned, a bit strange e?This means that the three BEST minimal producers of ALL time are not mentioned.Namely Maurizio, Basic Channel and Fluxion!I consider Fluxion to be the best ever...

Fluxion- "Lark"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF34502-01-01-01.mp3

Fluxion- "Atlas"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF34502-01-02-01.mp3

(Amazing hypnotic track that keeps building and building...)

Fluxion- "Redundant"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF70922-01-01-01.mp3

Fluxion- "Deviation-1"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF70922-01-02-01.mp3

Fluxion- "Friction-Pulse"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF62490-01-02-02.mp3


To be fair, he's not asking who the greatest minimal producers of all time are, he's asking for tunes that sound specifically like rancho relaxo.

Perhaps read the original post?

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stevėsto
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Registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
To be fair, he's not asking who the greatest minimal producers of all time are, he's asking for tunes that sound specifically like rancho relaxo.

Perhaps read the original post?


fuk being fair, those tunes are outstanding! thanks petran!


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GreatStuff
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Edinburgh
Thumbs up

Thanks for all the info.

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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece

quote:

Originally posted by Chesco
To be fair, he's not asking who the greatest minimal producers of all time are, he's asking for tunes that sound specifically like rancho relaxo.



Yep , i know i kindda noticed that a bit later...

quote:

Originally Posted By stevėsto
fuk being fair, those tunes are outstanding! thanks petran!



Glad that you liked them mate!If you like this type of music then i suggest you to go immediately to Betoni...

http://www.adapteri.com/betoni/

It's full of free downloads of really fantastic minimal, deep/tech house/techno, ambient/downtempo and electro stuff. It's really good!
And some more because i'm in the mood...

Stewart Walker- "Ten Years of Anger" (classic minimal producer)

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF221423-01-01-01.mp3

Stewart Walker - "Do You Know Me"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF78611-01-01-01.mp3


Stewart Walker- "Cry Like Country Singer"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF200132-01-02-02.mp3

Aril Brikha- "Prey for Peace" (is this what they call "neo-trance"?)

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF184220-01-01-01.mp3

Aril Brikha- "Aqua"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF241600-01-01-09.mp3


Lawrence- "Coltsfoot" (Lawrence is an amazing artist.He merges minimal with detroit-techno. Check out both of his albums. The second one called "This Night Will Last Forever" was superb!).

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF132274-01-04-01.mp3

Lawrence- "Shelter"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF132274-01-03-01.mp3


Rhythm & Sound- "Outward"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF177838-02-02-02.mp3


Rhythm & Sound- "Smile"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF85316-01-01-05.mp3

Rhythm & Sound- "Carrier"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF85316-01-01-08.mp3

Luomo- "Class" (Vladislav Delay!!!)

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF62543-01-02-01.mp3

Luomo- "The Right Wing"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF62543-01-04-01.mp3

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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

here's a mix of mine with rancho relaxo on it...





http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=allied+nations


Got fairly good reviews I'd say...


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stevėsto
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Location: St Petersburg, FL

one more question: is there a forum for minimal? like a minimaladdict.com?


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chesco
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Glasgow

quote:
Originally posted by stevėsto
one more question: is there a forum for minimal? like a minimaladdict.com?


www.plusorminus.org is pretty good..

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Atom-B
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Registered: Nov 2006
Location: hmm.....

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Yep , i know i kindda noticed that a bit later...




Glad that you liked them mate!If you like this type of music then i suggest you to go immediately to Betoni...

http://www.adapteri.com/betoni/

It's full of free downloads of really fantastic minimal, deep/tech house/techno, ambient/downtempo and electro stuff. It's really good!
And some more because i'm in the mood...

Stewart Walker- "Ten Years of Anger" (classic minimal producer)

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF221423-01-01-01.mp3

Stewart Walker - "Do You Know Me"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF78611-01-01-01.mp3


Stewart Walker- "Cry Like Country Singer"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF200132-01-02-02.mp3

Aril Brikha- "Prey for Peace" (is this what they call "neo-trance"?)

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF184220-01-01-01.mp3

Aril Brikha- "Aqua"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF241600-01-01-09.mp3


Lawrence- "Coltsfoot" (Lawrence is an amazing artist.He merges minimal with detroit-techno. Check out both of his albums. The second one called "This Night Will Last Forever" was superb!).

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF132274-01-04-01.mp3

Lawrence- "Shelter"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF132274-01-03-01.mp3


Rhythm & Sound- "Outward"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF177838-02-02-02.mp3


Rhythm & Sound- "Smile"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF85316-01-01-05.mp3

Rhythm & Sound- "Carrier"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF85316-01-01-08.mp3

Luomo- "Class" (Vladislav Delay!!!)

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF62543-01-02-01.mp3

Luomo- "The Right Wing"

http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF62543-01-04-01.mp3


Luomo- The right wing. You nailed it. Fucking sick track


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winston
ultraviolet catastrophe



Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Yggdrasill

I thought some of you might find this interesting.

A brief history of the legend himself, Steve Reich:

http://www.boosey.com/pages/cr/comp...composerid=2781

And a very, but very interesting article from the fine e-zine, "The Monobrow."

These days, it seems that anyone who strings a few loops together and then sticks the whole lot through the Supatrigga and Bouncy plugins from Smartelectronix can call themselves 'minimal'.

The music world is currently rather obsessed with the concept, from the Pet Shop Boys ode to the term to the rather infuriating trend in dance music to shove the word minimal infront of any formerly oversaturated sub-genre to instantly render it relevant in the 21st century (see minimal techno, minimal electro, minimal trance, minimal house, minimal skiffle...).

In fact, as eMusic puts it in their excellent guide to the key works of the Miminalism movement, "much of 20th-century popular music has been 'minimalist'". What the twelve very different albums highlighted in the eMusic article have in common however is their truly artistic exploration and genuine engagement with the principles of Minimalism, rather than simply drafting in the term in a bid to sell more records as has become par for the course in recent years.

The elder statesman of the Minimalism movement, Mr Steve Reich, is 70 years old this year, and in celebration of this fact a series of performances of his works have been held across the globe, including some appearances from Reich himself and his own band of 18 musicians. His current European stint takes in the Casa de Musica in Porto, Portugal (12th November), Vilnius in Lithuania (November 20th), and various events across France: Cite de la Musique, Paris (14th); La Comete, Chalons en Champagne (15th); Theatre de Caen, Caen (16th) as part of the Nordik Impakt festival; and MC2, Grenoble (18th).

gemma sheppard, 2nd Nov 2006 16:17:18 (www.themonobrow.com)

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PETRAN
Like Antennas To Heaven



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece

Oh man thanks for this. I love Steve Reich, he is an excellent composer. When i first heard "Music For 18 Musicians" it totally blew me away...these repeatitive ecstatic patters are ingenious, they are so simple yet so beautifull and effective, and give a really "floaty", "liquid", dynamic essence to the sound. It's like the compositions themeselves are given life of their own. It's really perfect headphone music.


Other great works are "Tehilim"(intense tribal drum-work coupled with gentle melodies and fantastic choral work that gives the music a "celestial" feel..."Tehilim" means psalms if i'm not mistaken...), "Different Trains"(beautifull strings), "The Cave"(just a masterpiece), "Electric Counterpoint"(some of the most hooky melodies you are ever going to here), "Three Movements"(Massive repeatitive majestic orchestral passages). There are many others which are great as well.


I absolutely agree with you about the so-called "minimal-techno/house" today,most of it is useless. Yes, older minimal-techno producers always used clicks and cuts (John Tejada for a representative example)but they absolutely knew what they were doing(at least some of them). Nowadays, these so-called new "minimal" producers are just over-doing it with these noises...and they just do it because its cool, there is no big ideas, or inspiration or whatsoever. Maybe this was also happening to a certain extent with the older 90s minimal-techno as well, .As ishkur puts it in his "guide": "Minimal is infected by the same flaws that infect the cyberpunk literature:Namely that authors are so enthralled by their own ideas and liberall use of asides to detail minute concoctions-usually for the sole satisfaction of their geek fanbase-that is often at the expense of putting out a decent product".At least that was the case with the older minimal. Nowadays IMO, it's purely a type of music that-in Ishkur's words again-"is more fashion then function".

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