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chesco
out to lunch



Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Glasgow

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
because when a headliner (especially as known as tiesto) gets booked to play the entire night, that very fact is used to promote the event further.
most people avoid the warm up djs they don't know, not the warm up slot.


Point taken, however..

a promoter can only charge so much for ticket prices without the general public being put off. If he puts tiesto on for 3 hours from 12-3 (scottish licensing states clubs close at 3 ) he'll make a far greater profit off ticket sales than paying for tiesto from 10-3.

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Psy-T
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Haifa

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
Point taken, however..

a promoter can only charge so much for ticket prices without the general public being put off. If he puts tiesto on for 3 hours from 12-3 (scottish licensing states clubs close at 3 ) he'll make a far greater profit off ticket sales than paying for tiesto from 10-3.


not necessarily - by having tiesto on from the very begining of the night and thus insuring a much higher attendance in the early hours + more punter rotation he's gaining a lot more from the bar than he would otherwise.


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chesco
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Glasgow

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
not necessarily - by having tiesto on from the very begining of the night and thus insuring a much higher attendance in the early hours + more punter rotation he's gaining a lot more from the bar than he would otherwise.


I'm not sure how it works in other countries but here in glasgow, the venue is rarely the one putting on the club nights. Promoters hire the venue and so have nothing to do with bar takings.

+ the fact someone of tiesto's stature would be a ticketed event, so once all tickets are sold, doors are closed regardles of how many people leave the club over the course of the evening

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Dan1584
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Candyland, USA

I love when the opening DJ ends up being BETTER than the main act. It doesn't happen too often but sometimes it does.


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Dan1584
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Candyland, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
naturally, yeah... but it's not like i don't 'walk the walk'.

note: i am aware this post is even more pretentious than the one it is discussing


lol


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Registered: Oct 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan1584
I love when the opening DJ ends up being BETTER than the main act. It doesn't happen too often but sometimes it does.


Isn't that what people call a bad warm-up?

People say that it's not good to steal the show.

I still don't understand exactly

What if I play great music and I get the crowd crazy, I think the main DJ should be able to keep the crowd happy.

What do you think?


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Tony Morello
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it's still possible to be better without stealing the show, sort of

say the opener plays a wicked opener set, did his/her job well

and the headliner still plays well, but it's the same old stuff you've been hearing them play already, still good, but expected


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Lebezniatnikov
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC

I saw Paolo Mojo open for Sasha on the Fundacion tour and he was fantastic. He started out nice and slow, but by the time he was done he was dropping bombs, and Sasha just took it from there and continued it all night long. The transition was nearly seamless between the end of the warmup set and the beginning of Sasha's. It was a lot dirtier than what I was expecting from Sasha as well, which makes me wonder if he took his cue from Paolo, or vice versa.


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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia

I've never understood how people can show up 20-30 minutes before the headlining DJ begins. I'm the guy who'll get to the club early and wait at least 30-40 minutes before the door opens. A large part of the fun about going out is getting the feel of the entire night; starting of calm, relaxed, and five or six hours later you're dancing your ass off to some "banging" tunes.

I've never seen a bad warm-up DJ. The only time I've been displeased with a flow is when the warm-up DJ's set is easily better than the headliner's and I find that that happens more often than not.

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DJ Mikey Mike
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: I'm at your mums'

Best warmup sets I have EVER heard in my 'clubbing career' in order, are from these 3 men:

Paul van Dyk
Ashley Casselle
Leo Belchetz


I've often come away having enjoyed the warmup set more than the main act. Last year at Roxy for example I thought Jerry Bonham's warmup shat all over PvD's 6 hour set.

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bas
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Here I Am Baby

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I saw Paolo Mojo open for Sasha on the Fundacion tour and he was fantastic. He started out nice and slow, but by the time he was done he was dropping bombs, and Sasha just took it from there and continued it all night long. The transition was nearly seamless between the end of the warmup set and the beginning of Sasha's. It was a lot dirtier than what I was expecting from Sasha as well, which makes me wonder if he took his cue from Paolo, or vice versa.

Prime example of what I'm talking about. I've never actually been there for Paolo & Sasha but I have a set they did together. Paolo's set was so sick! I can only imagine how much fun it must have been waiting for Sasha to get on. When Sasha plays in LA he has Mark Tabbernar open for him, pretty much every time. Mark Tabbernar is by far the WORST dj I have ever heard...EVER. And for some reason, he's always opening...it's disgusting. Anyway, openers ftw, I love them


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Lebezniatnikov
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC

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Prime example of what I'm talking about. I've never actually been there for Paolo & Sasha but I have a set they did together. Paolo's set was so sick! I can only imagine how much fun it must have been waiting for Sasha to get on. When Sasha plays in LA he has Mark Tabbernar open for him, pretty much every time. Mark Tabbernar is by far the WORST dj I have ever heard...EVER. And for some reason, he's always opening...it's disgusting. Anyway, openers ftw, I love them



Yeah, Paolo rocked it. I'd never heard of him before actually, so it was quite a surprise how good he was. I actually had the time completely messed up for the start of the show -- so I got there like 10:00 and Paolo didn't come on til midnight. Nice thing about the club was that they had a rock band -- Dishwalla -- playing that evening, and they were better than expected as well!

By the time Sasha was on, I was exhausted, but running on pure adrenaline. I slept in til 4 the next day


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