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geroin
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i think he became real angry after a blackman kept interupting him so he just went crazy

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Kytracid
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I think the audience leaving is a good indication that Richards wasn't joking. When white people start to leave a Chris Rock show then you can compare what he says and does to what Richards did. Chris Rock addresses racial differences in his act. Yes, he uses the word "cracker" but not in a hateful way that Richards apparently did.

Dropping the N bomb wasn't what set people off, it's his rant after the fact and his tone which comes across as hateful.

Defending him with the flimsy excuse of reverse racism is weak...so is suggesting he was justified because the 'black man' was talking during his bit.

Richards wasn't being funny. Proof...people didn't laugh, they left.


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Old Post Nov-21-2006 01:47  Tanzania
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Originally posted by Jayx1
first of all, him shouting like that is part of his routine and character act. He does the "kramer" on stage. Second id like to know what went on just before they cut into that tape. Second, id like to know what was cut out when the tape cuts to the next scene. What is the real story as opposed to the one presented?



how do u know? And maybe it was or wasnt but he sure sounded like he said it in his usual loud boisterous character. Many people do improv at the moment. What was the topic he was discuessing before the black guy interupted? Was it a joke based on race? Whats the context here?

most people cant. And id love to see the reaction to a white "chris rock" if one were to ever have the guts to emerge.



ie) be prepared for hypocrisy


The fact you can't tell the difference between a comedy routine that address racial differences (what Chris Rock, Chappelle and a host of other white,black and brown comedians do) and a hateful rant of a washed up has been says more about you then it does anything else.


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Old Post Nov-21-2006 01:50  Tanzania
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I guess if he was Chris Rock it would of been funny...


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First of all, Chris Rock is a fucking idiot. HIs whole gag consists of bitching about white people and the whole poor black man thing. I have absolutely no time for it.

Second, if that really was Kramer, he should have walked off the stage if the crowd was disrespecting him and interrupting. There was no need to go crazy like that. Considering how insulted black people get when the N word is used, he's lucky he wasn't shot or stabbed afterwards.


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apparently both Richards and Jerry Seinfeld are going to be on Letterman tonight to address the issue.

Publicity stunt anyone....?


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Originally posted by Kytracid
The fact you can't tell the difference between a comedy routine that address racial differences (what Chris Rock, Chappelle and a host of other white,black and brown comedians do) and a hateful rant of a washed up has been says more about you then it does anything else.


im not saying it was or wasnt a routine. what i am saying is that the video only gives part of the story. Im still curious as to what was cut out of the video in the middle.

If this was indeed true racism then thats bad. But im trying to say that just because a white man says n*gger doesnt necisarily mean its racism like everyone automatically assumes. Im just trying to make people stop and think and study this hard before jumping to conclusions.

There is no denying that racism exists on many levels and within all races.

But i still question whether this would be such a big deal if chris rock had stood up there and said the exact same things verbatim as "kramer" did. Id still say the answer would be NO!


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Old Post Nov-21-2006 02:57  Canada
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apparently both Richards and Jerry Seinfeld are going to be on Letterman tonight to address the issue.

Publicity stunt anyone....?


Should be intriguing


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Kind of funny...I remember one time being at Yuk Yuks (my roommate studies comedy so we go there alot) and most of the black comics that were up there talked about nothing more than the antics of white people and what black men liked...yes some of it was funny but the same topics over and over got be a bit repetitive. Near the end a white guy got on stage and started to talk about funny antics of black people, people in the audience began to complain and heavily heckle the guy (although what he was saying was funny and not anymore offensive than what the black comics were saying) and the guy had to leave the stage.

What I don't get is why some comics of certain races feel they have to get up there and fulfill the stereotype of their certain race onstage, one of the ways of stand-up is observing the things around you everyday and creating a funny joke or story about it. There are more things to observe than what a certain race does all the time.

Pardon moi but aren't we all trying to achieve equality in this world?


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quote:
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Kind of funny...I remember one time being at Yuk Yuks (my roommate studies comedy so we go there alot) and most of the black comics that were up there talked about nothing more than the antics of white people and what black men liked...yes some of it was funny but the same topics over and over got be a bit repetitive. Near the end a white guy got on stage and started to talk about funny antics of black people, people in the audience began to complain and heavily heckle the guy (although what he was saying was funny and not anymore offensive than what the black comics were saying) and the guy had to leave the stage. I'm by no means racist but I found that a bit odd that the other comics were never heckled.

What I don't get is why some comics of certain races feel they have to get up there and fulfill the stereotype of their certain race onstage, one of the ways of stand-up is observing the things around you everyday and creating a funny joke or story about it. There are more things to observe than what a certain race does all the time.

Pardon moi but aren't we all trying to achieve equality in this world?


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Sinbad is live on CNN right now talking about it. He was working that night too.

I personally think Richards went way to far. So long you joke about yourself or your own culture, it's ok. Joking about others is not OK.


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