Apparently you don't acknowledge any legitimate criticism of Israel. I even presented documented evidence from their own sources (Zioniosts') of a premeditated plan consistent with everything that's happened in the past 60 years and continues till this day. It seem to have no affect on your views. I see little reason to bother responding to your posts on the issue any further.

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Lilith couldn't agree with you more. Violence and
armed resistance is not the way. Peaceful protests
will get them more respect from the world than
targeting civilian homes and schools.

At least the IDF calls people telling them that their
house which is being used to store weapons and arms
will be bombed in 15 min. Would Hamas do the same thing?
Got two mentalities, one purposely targets innocents
while the other tries to minimize collateral damage.

Arafat made the worst decision by starting the 2nd intifada
and sending young men and boys on suicide bombings instead
of using words. We were at the threshold of peace until
he walked out of the negotiations.

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^^ What kind of crack are you smoking? Or were you born retarted?

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z ^^ What kind of crack are you smoking? Or were you born retarted?

Lay off the sledging already.

This threads pretty much due to have a fork stuck in it anyway.
If you want to look at peaceful political reform after generations of racial violence for a solution you'd do worse to look up the history of the ANC.
The ANC where for many years literally a terrorist organisation that eventually decided to put away their guns, stop blowing people up, fighting amongst themselves and take that brave step onto the moral high ground which eventually led to peaceful social and democratic change with popular support.
The PLO and its other sub-departments could do well to either take that step or take a step in the direction of economic opposition, they do that, drop the fighting and I'll quite happily side with them. Until then, I've got no bias one way or another with Palestine or Israel, theyre both equally as bloody terrible as one another for lots of different reasons and thats it.

My comment:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z ^^ What kind of crack are you smoking? Or were you born retarted?

was directed at this:

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Violence and armed resistance is not the way. Peaceful protests will get them more respect from the world than targeting civilian homes and schools. At least the IDF calls people telling them that their house which is being used to store weapons and arms will be bombed in 15 min. Would Hamas do the same thing? Got two mentalities, one purposely targets innocents while the other tries to minimize collateral damage. Arafat made the worst decision by starting the 2nd intifada and sending young men and boys on suicide bombings instead of using words. We were at the threshold of peace until he walked out of the negotiations.

not:

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Lilith couldn't agree with you more.

And I think I already made myself clear with:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Apparently you don't acknowledge any legitimate criticism of Israel. I even presented documented evidence from their own sources (Zioniosts') of a premeditated plan consistent with everything that's happened in the past 60 years and continues till this day. It seem to have no affect on your views. I see little reason to bother responding to your posts on the issue any further.

That should make it rather obvious which "side" is more "messed up" and they're not both "just as bad." Which is why I said:

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I see little reason to bother responding to your posts on the issue any further.

Infact, his post was so retarted, contradictory, inconsistent with reality, and just full of hypocrisy, that it doesn't even justify a proper response. And this isn't the first time eigther. It's incredibly hard to comprehend how someone could advertize that constantly, and not even realize it.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Shaolin you're free to break down what I say and
try to prove me wrong.. Just relying on calling
me names like 'retarted' is kinda immature kid.

At least spell the word right... spell checking and
proof-reading might help you sound alittle more
intelligent thou after people read what you have
to say they might not think so...

Well I'm no English major but just trying to help
you out.

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Discovering a typo in my post doesn't make you any less stupid, ignorant, or hypocritical.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Discovering a typo in my post doesn't make you any less stupid, ignorant, or hypocritical.

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Shaolin you're free to break down what I say and try to prove me wrong.. Just relying on calling me names like 'retarted' is kinda immature kid.

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Ok, apparently you're no older than five.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Cut defense spending to the extremes he did is insane. You argue there was no need for the B-1? Are you serious? Do you know how much we still use it today? During his four years he was short-sighted to see it's value in the future. Very bad idea and reinforces the notion he was weak on national defense.

The B1-A and the current B1-B are, in effect, two totally different airplanes that look similar. You obviously don't know much about the B1 program.

And the B1-B has gotten very little use over its lifecycle. The role it "fits" has been done equally, or even better, by the old workhorse B-52.

The B1 was designed to be a nuclear weapons platform. Carter rightfully decided that it was too expensive for the little gain that it would give US forces.

The B1 program was a white elephant. As much as the B2 program was in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Carter just had the foresight to see it for what it was at the beginning of the cycle instead of the end.



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Originally posted by Lilith We all bleed red.

Only in the presence of oxygen.

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Lilith couldn't agree with you more. Violence and armed resistance is not the way. Peaceful protests will get them more respect from the world than targeting civilian homes and schools.

Is there any reason why you're talking about peaceful protests, when just a few posts back you were downing Carter on his stance on decreasing military funding?

And what the hell.. is that a soldier in your icon? Am I seeing this right?