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Originally posted by Zeiter I'm no expert on the subject...but...I read somewhere a few years back that some groups want Texas to be independant again if they don't get more representation in political power and stuff like that...and Texas's pride is high because of somehow their nostalgic idea of an Independant Texas...or something..

There are a few groups who want that. My mom is a prosecuting attorney and actually prosecuted a woman who claimed that she was "out of U.S. jurisdiction" because Texas was still its own country. But those people are considered nutcases and aren't very common.

Many Texans do have a lot of pride. You'll see the Texas flag, the same size and height as the U.S. flag, flying at banks and car dealerships and all sorts of places. This probably has a little to do with formerly being an independent country and a little to do with the sheer size of the state: it is larger in land area than many countries (France or Germany or Spain, for example), so it seems big enough to be a country by itself.

I don't consider being a Texan a very big deal, but quite a few people take a lot of pride in it.

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Originally posted by dj_bas That's because you're from Texas

i am suck

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa i am suck

but you always say you wanna get out of texas so no?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles There are a few groups who want that. My mom is a prosecuting attorney and actually prosecuted a woman who claimed that she was "out of U.S. jurisdiction" because Texas was still its own country. But those people are considered nutcases and aren't very common. Many Texans do have a lot of pride. You'll see the Texas flag, the same size and height as the U.S. flag, flying at banks and car dealerships and all sorts of places. This probably has a little to do with formerly being an independent country and a little to do with the sheer size of the state: it is larger in land area than many countries (France or Germany or Spain, for example), so it seems big enough to be a country by itself. I don't consider being a Texan a very big deal, but quite a few people take a lot of pride in it.

thanks for ya explanation!

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Originally posted by trunks1022 well if you want to go even further, i think of myself as a new yorker. not even new york state, but new york city. it's just a function of where you involve yourself most of the time. i think if i'm traveling to another country, that's when my nationality comes to the forefront of my mindset. hope that helps!

ah, thank you. when people ask where i am from i always say new york. i am a new yorker first, then an american. to me NY is so different from the rest of america in my mind. but i think that is just NY attitude.

i dont know why i do it, but i am glad to see someone else does it.

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I think personal identity depends in part on the state. Texas and California seem to be much stronger identifiers than say, Indiana or Iowa.

+1, exactly what I was gonna say.

I'm from Miami first and foremost, personally, then Florida and then the US.

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Really depends where you are. If you're with a bunch of people from other states, you're going to rep your state. It'd be rediiculase to rep your country with your fellow citizens. If you're with foreigners, then you'd mostly be american.

When questioned by an American Im a Washingtonian (elitist) and when questioned by a foreigner I spit in their face (American).

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Really depends where you are. If you're with a bunch of people from other states, you're going to rep your state. It'd be rediiculase to rep your country with your fellow citizens. If you're with foreigners, then you'd mostly be american.

I'd add that if you're from one of the major cities, though, you're more likely to associate with that than with a state (for instance, when I lived in Chicago, I'd never say I was from Illinois, since Chicago is basically like its own state, and quite different from the rest of Illinois).


As for the books you're referring to, I've only ever heard of such things in news stories about, say, one school in the middle of nowhere, Alabama, that might've put them in for one grade level, or something. The presence of such texts is widely exaggerated for shock value.

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gm...interesting questions. i always referred to myself as being from chicago. and i always refered my heritage as irish/scottish/german.

but then again, i would always be talking to people in the states.

when i was overseas in germany, that's when i would say i was from america first....then if they asked where, i would get more specific.