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Pheobius
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Whats the difference between fate and an All-knowing God that knows the future, and who knows exactly how you will react to situations that occur in your life?


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kr00t0n
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Fate - nope

A form of karma - yep


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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
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Answering Pheobius' question, here's my point:


Do you believe in a God that satisfies?
Do you believe in a God that opens eyes?
Do you believe in a God that tells you lies?
Or do you believe in me?

Do you believe in a God that brings you down?
Do you believe in a God that wears a crown?
Do you believe in a God that makes you bow?

Or do you believe in me?

Me... me... me-me... oo-chika-chika-choon
choon-ke-choon-ke-chung-chika-chika-choon
choon-ke-choon-ke-chung-chika-chika-choon
choon-ke-choon-ke-chung-chika-chika-choon!!!


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Moral Hazard
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quote:
Originally posted by Pheobius
Whats the difference between fate and an All-knowing God that knows the future, and who knows exactly how you will react to situations that occur in your life?


Intervention. If the all-knowing God is non-interventionist then the fact that it knows all is inmaterial to what befalls you.


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Omega_M
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Registered: Jun 2005
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I do not believe in fate. But I do believe in Karma. If you have done bad things in life, then your life will be controlled by unfortunate events. You have to pay. God need not be involved in this process at all. How you live your life now, will determine the quality of your future life. So why are people born blind or disabled ? The easy way out for some religions is to say that karma from past life carries over. Whether you believe in life after death is up to your personal belief, because you can neither prove or disprove it.


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Frenchie
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Don't we already one of these threads?

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Pheobius
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quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Intervention. If the all-knowing God is non-interventionist then the fact that it knows all is inmaterial to what befalls you.


I'm not so sure it's intervention, because although the God i described could intervene, it also would have created the universe, so it wouldn't need to. In my opinion fate can only to the product of some concious design anyway


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Ed G
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To think that you control your life to a substantial degree is laughable. We are microbes in an infinite ocean. The belief that we are in control of anything is the weak minded point of view. We're terrified of the thought that "something" is controlling us.

I'm not saying that some external being is writing the script for your life either. The being that would have created something as magnificent and complex as the universe wouldn't be bothered with the petty little details of your life.

We don't have the tools to understand the answer to this question if it were available anyway, so we pick a belief that feels right to us. I choose to believe that absolutely every minute detail of my life is unchangable by me. Every fart and revelation is inevitable. Nothing is in my control.

Choosing to frame life that way makes me like someone watching a movie. The movie is life from my perspective, and I'm free to enjoy it as an observer without the specter of responsibility.

Free will is a trap designed to make you feel resposible for the worlds ills.

Free will is a lie.


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makija
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Winnipeg

believing in fate is same as the myth of ice bullet ! its complete bs but then again JFK got smoked with one of thoes


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HaeD
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Doesnt matter if u believe or not. Ur fate is still the same.

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denys envy
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: falLAcy, CA

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
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choon-ke-choon-ke-chung-chika-chika-choon
choon-ke-choon-ke-chung-chika-chika-choon
choon-ke-choon-ke-chung-chika-chika-choon!!!



haven't heard that tune since 2003 thanks.

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