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Originally posted by Q5echo not at all. i'm saying that polls aren't as important to him as they are to you. congrats on the mid-terms btw, yall proved my point

You're using that victim card again, Q. Don't blame anyone but the GOP's corruptness and lack of postwar planning in Iraq on the voters or the Democrats - have your GOP take a good hard look in the mirror. Actually, a healthy number of them already have and came to the same conclusions.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN even the centrist moderates like myself will be calling for the death of israel

That's a good one. You calling yourself a centrist moderate is the funniest post I've read today.

Is the circus in town or you just feel like being a clown today?

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Originally posted by CHRles That's a good one. You calling yourself a centrist moderate is the funniest post I've read today. Is the circus in town or you just feel like being a clown today?

meaning what? a centrist pulls from either end of the spectrum. i have opinions on both side of the great divide. if we're gonna keep simplistic descriptions of left-right, id definitely put myself somewhere muddy in the middle...

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Originally posted by CHRles That's a good one. You calling yourself a centrist moderate is the funniest post I've read today. Is the circus in town or you just feel like being a clown today?

Wrong. I don't think there's anyone more centrist that pkc on any issue, not just this one. Both his greatest strength and weakness IMO (sorry pkc ).

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no apologies needed shaolin! i used to be a rapid righty, then a rabid lefty, and now (in my old age) ive found myself languishing somewhere in the middle

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 You're using that victim card again, Q. Don't blame anyone but the GOP's corruptness and lack of postwar planning in Iraq on the voters or the Democrats - have your GOP take a good hard look in the mirror. Actually, a healthy number of them already have and came to the same conclusions.

yeah, i'm just not buying it. the Dems wanted wanted their power back back one way or another since 2000 and have been fairly scrupulous revising history, propping up hit men and generating shortsided hate among its young and ignorant far left base for years.

after all that, it took 3000 dead American soldiers to give you a one seat Majority in the Senate by your logic.

if i'm playing the victim card then you should remember one thing, you've got the inurgency, Zawahiri, Ahmadeninijad on your side...as Leslie Nielson once said; "good luck, we're all counting on you."

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Originally posted by Q5echo yeah, i'm just not buying it. the Dems wanted wanted their power back back one way or another since 2000 and have been fairly scrupulous revising history, propping up hit men and generating shortsided hate among its young and ignorant far left base for years.

And I thought my tin foil hat was on too tight.

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after all that, it took 3000 dead American soldiers to give you a one seat Majority in the Senate by your logic.

And a battle against a tightly controlled GOP majority with a sitting President in their pockets (or perhaps the other way around would be more correct).

And try not to count out the 31-seat pickup in Congress, if you will sir. You must have also conveniently forgotten that not one Democratic incumbent lost his seat. And you criticize us of revisionist history? Tisk tisk.

Oh yeah, we also picked up more governor and State Congressional seats as well.

And it only gets worse for you wingnuts in 2008 as you have substantially more seats to defend vs. the Democrats. Thanks, I like my logic very much.

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if i'm playing the victim card then you should remember one thing, you've got the inurgency, Zawahiri, Ahmadeninijad on your side...as Leslie Nielson once said; "good luck, we're all counting on you."

Ahh I see, by that extremist logic I suppose you have al Qaeda and Iran on your side? Or perhaps you are on their side? Because in all reality, bin Laden has nothing but high praise for your ill-planned invasion in Iraq, and Iran has nothing but sincere gratitude for installing a fundamentalist Shiite regime with close ties to their own country.

Now which extremist logic makes more sense?

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How about the clout of nuclear annihilation hanging over your head being one of the iranian scientists?

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Ahh I see, by that extremist logic I suppose you have al Qaeda and Iran on your side?

Zawahiri and Ahmedinenjad are Al Queera and Iran, stupid.

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Or perhaps you are on their side? Because in all reality, bin Laden has nothing but high praise for your ill-planned invasion in Iraq, and Iran has nothing but sincere gratitude for installing a fundamentalist Shiite regime with close ties to their own country.

nice stretch but that logic is just silly.

instead, try this: thats what they think because they like seeing Westerners die trying to impart a moderate and soveriegn self rule. understand?

the only difference between you and them is that you don't enjoy watching Westerners die. however, thats pretty much where the difference ends.

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US has been considering such an operation for awhile now-
http://www.aip.org/pt/vol-56/iss-11/p32.html
(Sort of a how they work thing)
And still seems to be pushing for it-
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/conte...s/060417fa_fact
I seriously doubt Israel would be the one to launch such an attack, much more likely to be the US doing it in the current political conditions but that really seems to be dependant on the US congress. They where making big conventional bombs to do the same type of job as well if I remember hearing rightly they dumped out the back of some military transport plane.

Don't really go in for the 'long & bloody' war thing either, I'd be more inclined to think it would end up like Libya after they where bombed by the US and UK. Though the UN wouldnt back anything like a nuke strike... I seriously hope they wouldnt so the subsequent diplomacy wouldnt be there.
Kind of like the complete lack of diplomacy the US is displaying elsewhere in the world, may as well just build a big, silent wall instead of having a US Embassy in some places with 'Kiss My Arse' written on the sides so the locals can throw rocks at it for all the lack of talking that goes on.

No, no long wars with nukes flying.

they should use submarine launched ICBM kinetic energy weapons.

no "yield" at all, just a salvo of 2000 lbs. tungsten hammers coming down from space at 17,000 mph.

they could be launched off the coast of Hawaii. wouldn't have to leave our own waters.

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Originally posted by Q5echo they should use submarine launched ICBM kinetic energy weapons. no "yield" at all, just a salvo of 2000 lbs. tungsten hammers coming down from space at 17,000 mph. they could be launched off the coast of Hawaii. wouldn't have to leave our own waters.

you have no care for human life. All you see is the brainwashed world you live in.. america the great saviour... liberating the world from evil

Give us a fuckin break. YOu are the laughing stock of the world. People hate you becuase of you. You dont make sense anymore.. you are a lie.. a blundering fool who is still proud of the corruption and hell that has espoused Iraq and your leaders.

I dont think you understnad the ramifications of such a strike.

It could lead that whole area into a regional war for decades. But to your cock-fed mentality.. you just see things in black and white.

What a joke your existence is.

keep rooting for your soldiers... they seem to be doing so well these days

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