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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC So what has been your point in this thread? That he was a CIA assest and thus shouldn't have been killed? He wasn't a murderer? Our taxpaying money was spent on training him? I don't understand what your problem is... You posted about a comedian and a book. But what about the death of this individual has you all butt hurt over?

No, I don't care wheather he lives or dies. Not sure why you're assuming that. With that in mind, go read my posts again. Might answer your question.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

From Shaloin page 1
"Yeah, congratulations . You just killed an ex-employee/false-flag op participant who the intelligence agencies spent atleast a few hundred thosands dollars training in most likelyhood, your tax dollars. Now they spend 10 times that just to get rid of him... again... using your tax dollars, not to mention with great finesse (i.e. extreme incompetence)."

You're pissed about taxpayer moneying being used
for the above?

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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC From Shaloin page 1 "Yeah, congratulations . You just killed an ex-employee/false-flag op participant who the intelligence agencies spent atleast a few hundred thosands dollars training in most likelyhood, your tax dollars. Now they spend 10 times that just to get rid of him... again... using your tax dollars, not to mention with great finesse (i.e. extreme incompetence)." You're pissed about taxpayer moneying being used for the above?

Well, that's part of it, but there's more.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

Bingo.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by WM2 He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

True

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Originally posted by WM2 He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

what's your point? name any country in the world that's ever had a perfect and unambiguous foreign policy over the last 100 years. all kinds of shit goes on all the fucking time. why is the US always held to a higher standard than everyone else?

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Originally posted by WM2 He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

Then I'd have to say, no, this guy most likely a
terrorist who's never gotten support from the US.

The above scenario is more complicated than that
and I think it's been discussed at length here
before. I think thou it was good neither country
dominated the other in the war or else we'd have
a country incorporating both of them with a lousy
regime at the helm be it Saddam or the hard line
clerics of Iran. But that's just my opinion on the
outcome of the Iraq-Iran war.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN what's your point? name any country in the world that's ever had a perfect and unambiguous foreign policy over the last 100 years. all kinds of shit goes on all the fucking time. why is the US always held to a higher standard than everyone else?

I was helping clarify, and Switzerland.

Why are we held to a higher standard? We're the supposed embodiment of the higher standard according to our founding fathers anyway. We're the lone super power. We stand alone at the top and we're the self proclaimed example for everyone else to live by.

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Originally posted by WM2 Why are we held to a higher standard? We're the supposed embodiment of the higher standard according to our founding fathers anyway. We're the lone super power. We stand alone at the top and we're the self proclaimed example for everyone else to live by.

PREACH ON BROTHER!!!

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Originally posted by WM2 He's asking if this guy is another Saddam. One day he's shaking hands with Rummy and having a nice chat cause we don't like Iran and conviently enough Saddam is at war with them. Then twenty years later when it's not convient to have Saddam around any more his old pal Rummy is whipping up public frenzy about why this guy is so bad and needs to be dealt with now when he could have done something back in 1983 when Saddam was using WMD's on the Iranian army. Something like not supporting him.

How come when I used this exact same argument last week in the Saddamn hanging threads I, had everyone chewing on my arse and this week its happy hour?
Heck I was picking out pissy emails, cranky PM's, vulgar replies and pretty much everything short of a brick through the window.