Originally posted by Zild
This is great advice. If you beatmatch using the high end you will find your mixes will be much tighter than if you're intentionally listening for the bass drum.
There are exceptions, for example in
Akabu - Phuture Bound
the clap actually sounds like it's a little bit ahead (at least to me ), so if you were to try and match this based on the clap, the beats would be off-sync and it would sound a little weird...I noticed this as i heard UWM's November mix and i thought to myself "isn't Phuture Bound ahead here?" but then realized that the clap just sounded like it was. But as a general rule, i guess you could say the highs are more precise.
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Jan-16-2007 16:43
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I think I'll add this to the Sticky as "how to mix breakbeats."
Originally posted by Zild
This is great advice. If you beatmatch using the high end you will find your mixes will be much tighter than if you're intentionally listening for the bass drum.
my mixing went on another upswing after a friend told me to try it that way when i was starting out
Putboy is right, Breaks are still 4/4 as most modern music that intends people to dance to it is.
Unless you are planning on mixing a Vienese waltz the same rules apply (And still not impossible).
Understand phrases and most mixing becomes possible as you know when a segment begins and ends.
When mixing I don't really go for one thing or another in a track and tend to just roll with if it sounds tight or not. Can't say I listen for any one element.
As time progresses you will develop an internal BPM/Phrase counter and it will just be like second nature to you. When you reach this stage you should find that you can beatmatch accapella vocals easily too.
It's just a question of practice. I would definately say 'don't give up on the idea', if anything it will make you a better mixer if you master this.
If you listen to a breaks track and watch a group of people dancing to it you will often notice that they keep the groove on a steady 4/4 as you probably do too. Some other folks have illustrated thsi but I will say it again, in breaks, beats are not always played where they are expected to be but they are still bound by the same rules as house or trance.
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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Don't listen to the beat, listen to the clap/snare and other percs and it's just like mixing any other kind of music.
+1
The clap/snare are (95% of the time) every other beat(unnnn TISSS unnnn TISSS)in breaks there may be an extra kick drum or not one at all(unnn TISS Un Un Unn TISS). just mach it up so the the clap/snares (TISS) from both tracks are over lapped then its a matter of EQing or Cutting.
Originally posted by Andryuha
I guess I should avoid mixing such tracks until my beat-matching is perfected. Looks like this would be to hard at this point
you should probably do it more. that'll make mixing 4 on da floor tracks together easier
Dec-28-2008 04:02
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How about mixing tracks with different amounts of shuffle?
Originally posted by PutBoy
Breakbeats are still 4/4. Don't care about the kick, just tap your feet.
You bumped a thread from almost a year ago just to post that?
Anyways, I've never really understood why people seem to have a tough time beatmatching a breaks track alongside a straight-kick track. If you're able to tell how fast a track is going then it should be a piece of cake no matter what style the kick is.
The same goes for the question posed about different amounts of shuffle. Beatmatch it, but make sure the shuffle doesn't pose too much of a dissonance with the other track while mixing it in. For the most part, you should have little to no trouble at all.
Hip Hop is this way. The kick is allmost NEVER defined how you want it but there is allways a snare, clap, hi hat or something that the producer leaves you so you can mix the track. Usually on the 2 and 4.
Hip hop/top 40 gets easier and easier as you learn to do just like you would with trance/house and just match up the "markers". Just instead of being the boom boom boom boom it may be bbooomboom tap bboomboom tap.
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Dec-28-2008 11:43
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Originally posted by idoru
You bumped a thread from almost a year ago just to post that?
), so if you were to try and match this based on the clap, the beats would be off-sync and it would sound a little weird...I noticed this as i heard UWM's November mix and i thought to myself "isn't Phuture Bound ahead here?" but then realized that the clap just sounded like it was. But as a general rule, i guess you could say the highs are more precise.
sry
