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Originally posted by Aristronica youtubing this now. hopefully they got it. so yeah -

awesome clip, and probably the highlight of the episode, but if you can find it, watch the whole thing, its WELL worth it

hold on a sec, i'll find it

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word, for anyone interested:


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Originally posted by mezzir word, for anyone interested:...

watching now.

free at last,
they took your life,
they could not take your pride

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Originally posted by Clovis Oh how ashamed he woud be of our country today...

I think that King genuinely understood the difference between character and skin colour though - he understood that his brethren were just as human as anyone, obviously. Which means they were just as susceptible to the great range of human dispositions. I don't think he deluded himself into thinking that suddenly blacks would rise to power or suddenly become the paragon citizen on every social level - he just wanted for them to have an equal chance. Though the "victory" of the civil rights movement does not belong to him - or any one person, for that matter - I think that the US and even much of the rest of the world has made a lot of significant strides in maintaining that every person, regardless of 'race' or skin colour, is given and equal opportunity. Of course, many problems arose with this, but I think that he very much understood this would happen anyways - like he said in his speech: 1963 was but the beginning of a very long journey - he didn't expect the entire country to change on that very day, but he recognized that his actions were the spark of something much greater than himself. I don't think that King would be the person to sit around and complain about how the country has gone to shit though - I really think he would understand that these sorts of things take a very long time to achieve and he knew that it would not happen in his lifetime and maybe not even in his children's.

Of course there is still bullshit racism in America and the rest of the world - I cannot say for certain, but I do not think that King was aiming to necessarily defeat that sentiment so much as just achieve the spark for its defeat on a civic level. Of course not everybody is given an equal opportunity in life, of course not everybody is created equal on a social level, but I think that 40 years later, people are given far more of a chance than they were in his time, and I think that he understood that people would either use their freedom to achieve something great or they would squander it away - and he also understood that this dynamic knew no race or colour - that even "his people" were capable of succumbing to it; King fought to give them a choice though. Perhaps the world has not changed much since his time - perhaps it hasn't even changed at all, I cannot say for certain. But I think that the changes that have occurred would make King proud, but he would also understand that there was still much work to be done.

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I agree with everything you said, but I'd love to know what he thinks about Guantanamo Bay.

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Originally posted by Clovis I agree with everything you said, but I'd love to know what he thinks about Guantanamo Bay.

Oh, on an international level? Yeah, he'd shit a brick.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Oh, on an international level? Yeah, he'd shit a brick.

YOU HAVE A RAG ON YOUR HEAD! TERRORIST!

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

I suppose you americans naming a day after whoever that King guy is would be equivilant to the australian version: 'Spank a Koala' day.

I can't wait for Sri Krishna-janmashthami Day. I feel it's time to fill a void in my Hindu soul.

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ I suppose you americans naming a day after whoever that King guy is would be equivilant to the australian version: 'Spank a Koala' day. I can't wait for Sri Krishna-janmashthami Day. I feel it's time to fill a void in my Hindu soul.

i assure you this day has nothing to do with spanking.

i have a gast on my rada