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Originally posted by DigiNut Lots of good producers here use Reason. Only problem with it is the lack of plugin (VST, DX, etc.) support, which Fruityloops does have. For most musicians, Reason seems to be the most natural choice. For some of the more tech-savvy musicians, Cubase is also easy to get the hang of. Fruityloops is better optimized for DJs and other non-musicians. and it's also dirt-cheap, therefore it has a much wider audience and is more popular. Insert standard disclaimer here about FL being perfectly capable of making tracks that are just as good as what comes out of Cubase or Logic or any other sequencer and yadda yadda yadda - the point is that the appeal of Fruityloops for many is its workflow, and if you don't find that workflow natural, you'll hate it.

That's a very interesting way of putting it. Makes a lot of sense.

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Originally posted by Allied Nations That's a very interesting way of putting it. Makes a lot of sense.

I put the disclaimer. It's no less capable, just geared toward people with different backgrounds!

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Originally posted by Allied Nations That's a very interesting way of putting it. Makes a lot of sense.

When is Diginut wrong or not helpful?

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Originally posted by SMC Move to fruity, it's much more flexible.

Don't want to start a war, but how is Fruity more flexible than Ableton?

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Originally posted by G-Con Don't want to start a war, but how is Fruity more flexible than Ableton?

Flexible is perhaps the wrong word, but i feel FL is easier to do thorough production work with, while ableton seems more optimized for quick access performance-like use, a lot of stuff on the same screen etc. Of course that's my impression. : >

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Originally posted by SMC Flexible is perhaps the wrong word, but i feel FL is easier to do thorough production work with, while ableton seems more optimized for quick access performance-like use, a lot of stuff on the same screen etc. Of course that's my impression. : >

Thats what I consider the beauty of Ableton. Having everything on one screen rather than having numerous different windows getting in the way. I feel in Ableton, it takes two clicks to achieve what in other daws takes 5 clicks. As far as I'm aware Ableton isn't less feature packed than Fruity, but is simpler (once you get used to the session view which for some, makes it seem far more complicated.)

Still, each to his own...

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For most musicians, Reason seems to be the most natural choice. For some of the more tech-savvy musicians, Cubase is also easy to get the hang of. Fruityloops is better optimized for DJs and other non-musicians. and it's also dirt-cheap, therefore it has a much wider audience and is more popular.

The only reason why Reason would be a natural choice for some people is that it is designed to look like a studio rack. Which is a good and a bad thing. Its good because people who know how to wire racks of desktop modules already know the gist of how Reason works. Its bad because in Reason, you dont have hands - instead you have a mouse cursor and a keyboard. Which makes wiring rackmount modules a bit of a pain in the arse. At least it is compared to doing it with your hands.

FL Studio is nowhere near as popular as Cubase. It also doesn't have industry wide adoption. In fact, I have yet to find a studio in Dublin that actually has Fruity on its computer. I've got studio time coming up next month. Ive got the Virus. Ive got ImpOSCar and I've used their mics. They don't have fruity though. They got pretty much every other DAW including Cubase, Logic, Reason and Ableton Live.

Cubase and Logic are pretty close to industry standards. Most studios will have these proggies on the system in the same way that most studios have a pro tools rig of some sort. Loads of people who drop by know how to use them.

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Originally posted by Derivative FL Studio is nowhere near as popular as Cubase. It also doesn't have industry wide adoption. In fact, I have yet to find a studio in Dublin that actually has Fruity on its computer. I've got studio time coming up next month. Ive got the Virus. Ive got ImpOSCar and I've used their mics. They don't have fruity though. They got pretty much every other DAW including Cubase, Logic, Reason and Ableton Live. Cubase and Logic are pretty close to industry standards. Most studios will have these proggies on the system in the same way that most studios have a pro tools rig of some sort. Loads of people who drop by know how to use them.

i've thought about this myself...

FL is pretty much on par with the other DAWs, (some would argue agaisnt this...) yet it isnt recognized as such. why is this?

IMO Ableton beats FLstudio. It's no contest.

However...

You have to be pretty knowledgeable, or have had musical training to write notes in ableton. FLstudio's piano roll makes life easier for people who don't have that training. We can just stretch, and tada! You have yourself a melody.

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