quote:

Originally posted by tathi ive met quite a few Venezualans in South America so far and i plan to visit the country after i spend a few months in Colombia, every Venezualan ive met HATES Chavez (these are the people who can afford to travel in south american countries outside of Venezuala) it just goes to show how polarised the country is, in the provinces and in the slums of Caracas im sure ill meet people who idolise the man.

hmm...Everything I've read pointed to massive support for Chavez across the country. Apparently the people wanted a socialist revolution, and that is exactly what they are getting from Chavez. Hopefully it won't take them too long to realize their error in judgement...and overthrow him.

quote:

Originally posted by tathi ive met quite a few Venezualans in South America so far and i plan to visit the country after i spend a few months in Colombia, every Venezualan ive met HATES Chavez (these are the people who can afford to travel in south american countries outside of Venezuala) it just goes to show how polarised the country is, in the provinces and in the slums of Caracas im sure ill meet people who idolise the man.

Chavez was democractically elected by over 62% of people who voted. I guess by that analogy you can see the state of the country - the rich hate him, the poor love him, and there at least a 60% poverty rate there, partially credited to Chavez and mainly to his predecessors. And oil-rich country when there's a lot of poor people ... thats been an issue for Venezuela for so many years now, long before Chavez ....

___________________
Whenever you go and buy something, you are affecting someone somewhere, be it environment, a person, or a community - you're making a statement with what you buy. So make it a smart choice ... Its a big picture

quote:

Originally posted by Magnetonium Chavez was democractically elected by over 62% of people who voted. ....

yeah, we get that point mate. you have beaten that horse past the point.

quote:

Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Sorry, too much coffee this morning......

Too much wine for me mate!

Read me Reviews, ha ha ha

Remember: Its not communism, its Chavism!

How it works...

___________________
"...End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path...one that we all must take.
The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

quote:

Originally posted by Fir3start3r Remember: Its not communism, its Chavism! How it works...

Pavlov's Dog would be proud!!

quote:

Originally posted by LazFX yeah, we get that point mate. you have beaten that horse past the point.

Yes, the point is that Venezuelan people chose communism, not democracy. Chaves is no democrat. His platform in 1998 involved rewriting the constitution. Read my previous posts over ... there are not good choices for Venezuelan people, because the fight for political domination continues!

___________________
Whenever you go and buy something, you are affecting someone somewhere, be it environment, a person, or a community - you're making a statement with what you buy. So make it a smart choice ... Its a big picture

quote:

Originally posted by Magnetonium Yes, the point is that Venezuelan people chose communism, not democracy. Chaves is no democrat. His platform in 1998 involved rewriting the constitution. Read my previous posts over ... there are not good choices for Venezuelan people, because the fight for political domination continues!

Communism and democracy are not mutually exclusive. Theoretically, it is possible to have both at the same time.

However, don't let me interrupt you talking out of your ass though.

quote:

Originally posted by Aquadyne Communism and democracy are not mutually exclusive. Theoretically, it is possible to have both at the same time. However, don't let me interrupt you talking out of your ass though.

Stop trying to wretch theory on actual events. In theory communism is supposed to be perfect, right? Well, well, in YOUR DREAMS is it possible to have BOTH at the same time. Everything is possible, but thats not the point here, the point here is whats happening. You're the one interrupting my thoughts by talking out of your own ass ;-)

___________________
Whenever you go and buy something, you are affecting someone somewhere, be it environment, a person, or a community - you're making a statement with what you buy. So make it a smart choice ... Its a big picture

Yeah, it's comments like these...

quote:

Yes, the point is that Venezuelan people chose communism, not democracy

That make me realize that you have no idea for the most part of what you're talking about.

You are equating an economic system with a political system.

Democracy is a form of government
Communism is an economics system.

Learn to tell the difference.

quote:

Originally posted by Aquadyne Yeah, it's comments like these... That make me realize that you have no idea for the most part of what you're talking about. You are equating an economic system with a political system. Democracy is a form of government Communism is an economics system. Learn to tell the difference.

Chavez changed the constitution to make him able to do these things in his 1998 election. Chavez is no democrat. He is a communist, and judging by being inspired by communist revolutionaries, he intends to create a communist union to fight against American domination.

He is doing it both economically, and politically.

___________________
Whenever you go and buy something, you are affecting someone somewhere, be it environment, a person, or a community - you're making a statement with what you buy. So make it a smart choice ... Its a big picture

He's a social democrat, sparky.

Proving once again, that democracy and principles of communism/socialism are not mutually exclusive