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nefardec
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The quickest, most accurate way to bpm tracks I have found is to run them in ableton and set up the grid against the beats.

You'll find some commercial tracks off beatport even are strange bpms like 127.15 which makes me fear they are shoddy rips :/

Not that it really matters with cds if it's a whole bpm number , but how many producers do you see writing tracks at 127.15? some middle man is involved


But running tracks through ableton before my cdjs has proved ideal to me - sometimes I fatten up my tracks with vintage warmer before burning them, and as soon as I get a new digital track I load it in ableton, bpm it and then key it by playing a clear synth against it.

Also I have found it useful to quickly test combinations of tracks in ableton before I try it on CDs, because the waveform and numbering system in ableton is so useful. It really helps with cd cues.

All of my cds are pretty accurately bpm'd, and vinyl, so I don't really have that situation where I am just adjusting the slider and find that serendipitous exact pitch between A and B - I already know if it's going to be the same, and about how much I am going to have to pitch based on multiples of the bpm difference. I also wrote a quick and dirty program for TI 89 calculators which will calculate the exact amount you have to pitch a track to match a track at a certain bpm and certain pitch %. This is useful for instance, when you want to do a live mashup really quickly. I can post the code if anyone is interested, but I have to stress that it should only be used when it needs to be used, like the mashup situation above or if a track has no recognizable beat for most of the track, etc.

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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
I also wrote a quick and dirty program for TI 89 calculators which will calculate the exact amount you have to pitch a track to match a track at a certain bpm and certain pitch %. This is useful for instance, when you want to do a live mashup really quickly. I can post the code if anyone is interested, but I have to stress that it should only be used when it needs to be used, like the mashup situation above or if a track has no recognizable beat for most of the track, etc.


So I'd basically have to have a calculator with me when I play? It's of no use to me, seeing that I dont do mashups, yet, but I'm just curious.

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nefardec
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Yeah I just keep it in my CD wallet

then you don't have to stand around like a nerd while you're playing for a crowd. haha

It's also great for acapellas

Also I am building functionality for calculating pitch adjustments for half, whole, and one and a half step transpositions.

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Re: Anyone Ever Notice - When Pitching 2 Tracks

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Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I often glance to the pitch on one CDJ, and it will, for example read +1.04% and the other one will read +1.04% too.

I only become aware after getting the two locked on, but I see it quite frequently. This must mean the tracks were written, at for example, exactly the same BPM, eg 130.0

Anyone else ever notice this?

Jarv


Yeah ive noticed this alot in the last 5 months ive had my cdj1000's. Really love it when it does happen aswell


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Almost every SHM track is 128 sharp..

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A lot of the Tsunami releases from a few years back have the exact same BPM as well. Don't know the exact figure, but they do.


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And Thomas Schumacher works often with SHM tracks too

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A lot of the Tsunami releases from a few years back have the exact same BPM as well. Don't know the exact figure, but they do.


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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
I also wrote a quick and dirty program for TI 89 calculators which will calculate the exact amount you have to pitch a track to match a track at a certain bpm and certain pitch %. This is useful for instance, when you want to do a live mashup really quickly. I can post the code if anyone is interested, but I have to stress that it should only be used when it needs to be used, like the mashup situation above or if a track has no recognizable beat for most of the track, etc.


I could put up code for a TI-83+ version if you can post the pseudocode/formula that you are using. I could also set this up in a number of languages on the PC, for anyone bringing their laptops to their gigs.

I'm very interested in this


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Jeremy H
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Originally posted by Protege
I love it when this happens. Makes beatmatching hella easier. Especially when youre like, I bet these tracks sound good together, and they do and theyre the same bpm. Its like a free blow job.

Haha! You usually pay for yours?


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nchs09
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wow you guys have maneged to turn something so fun as spinning, into a big nerd event


wtf carrying around a ti-83 on ur cd wallet...


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