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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 Oz Austria: The Luxurious Life man, what the hell is this nonsense?! you can't be serious. i bet people who live the most shit life will commit a crime so they can come to this place. 5 star prison? you better believe if i were to create a prison, it would be the LAST place you would want to be. at least provide some JUSTICE, not HOSPITALITY!

Actually, prison is not a place for punishment, but re-education.

The fact that most people down here (in Brazil) manage to turn prisons into a living hell is one of the reasons why most prisoners eventually go back to jail after leaving.

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Originally posted by Lira Actually, prison is not a place for punishment, but re-education. The fact that most people down here (in Brazil) manage to turn prisons into a living hell is one of the reasons why most prisoners eventually go back to jail after leaving.

i thought of prison as a place for justice/punishment. i never thought of it as a re-education.

hmmm...i guess it does make sense (about prisoners going back to jail). in my psychology classes, i've seen a video of an experiment (i don't think it was milgrams, but a prison experiment) where they took a group of people and divided them into two. group one were the security guards and group two wer the prisoners. to make a long story short, the power got to the securty guards' heads and they started humiliating and demeaning the prisoners. in the end, some of the prisoners had lifelong problesm because of what was going on in the experiment.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous AndreaCKY772. just. so. dumb.

I understand the concept of re-education, I really do but what I don't understand is the criminals who get free education at a post secondary level. I was watching snipitz of an A&e special about crimnals and this one women was saying how she always wanted to be a psychologist and or a veterinarian so what the state prison did was put her in private classes at the university closest to the prison so she can get a degree. Now, by all means educate them but I stand strongly behind this when I say that they do NOT and I mean DO NOT deserve FREE education.

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Originally posted by AndreaCKY772 i thought of prison as a place for justice/punishment. i never thought of it as a re-education. hmmm...i guess it does make sense (about prisoners going back to jail). in my psychology classes, i've seen a video of an experiment (i don't think it was milgrams, but a prison experiment) where they took a group of people and divided them into two. group one were the security guards and group two wer the prisoners. to make a long story short, the power got to the securty guards' heads and they started humiliating and demeaning the prisoners. in the end, some of the prisoners had lifelong problesm because of what was going on in the experiment.

The Stanford Prison Experiment?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

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Originally posted by Frenchie I understand the concept of re-education, I really do but what I don't understand is the criminals who get free education at a post secondary level. I was watching snipitz of an A&e special about crimnals and this one women was saying how she always wanted to be a psychologist and or a veterinarian so what the state prison did was put her in private classes at the university closest to the prison so she can get a degree. Now, by all means educate them but I stand strongly behind this when I say that they do NOT and I mean DO NOT deserve FREE education.

Are you sure she wasn't working?

By re-education, I meant integrating the prisoners back to society as contributing individuals. Earning something without having to fight for it doesn't seem like a way of integrating someone back in society, and that's why often there are firms inside the prisons where the convicts get a job.

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That seems kind of stupid, I mean for minor crimes maybe it's ok, but if someone's been cutting people up or raping little kids, I'd want their jail experience to be as long and painful as possible.

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i wonder what kinda soap they have?

And is it safe to drop it?

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Originally posted by Taranis And is it safe to drop it?

boo!

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And how is this punishment? Those cells are better than fucking hotel rooms. I can just go kill someone in Austria and hope to get a life sentence.

It looks like one giant ad for IKEA.