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Haunted
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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Haunted, doesn't understand the point of conspiracy theories. And no Im not saying that there isn't life out there. Im saying if there was we would already be dead or we are too unimportant to even bother with.


we have no basis of comparison here. the only thing we have is our own behavior, which could be MUCH different than other species. so who really knows? if the probing and all that stuff is true, then they obviously are curious about us. but until we get over ourselves and stop fighting (race, sex, religion, class) they probably won't care about us.


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Why are people so keen on believing in Aliens? Do you guys know the Nazis were trying to develop flying saucers and antigravity technology? I'm not entirely sure about the latter anymore. No, I'm not joking, it was even on TV, a program on the discovery channel some time ago if I remember correctely. Can't UFOs and related phenomenon just be top sectret military aircrafts and experimentation with new technology or do those silly greys always have to be part of the picture?


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quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Why are people so keen on believing in Aliens? Do you guys know the Nazis were trying to develop flying saucers and antigravity technology? I'm not entirely sure about the latter anymore. No, I'm not joking, it was even on TV, a program on the discovery channel some time ago if I remember correctely. Can't UFOs and related phenomenon just be top sectret military aircrafts and experimentation with new technology or do those silly greys always have to be part of the picture?


Sure you say that now; just wait until they begin the mass cow mutilations in Texas.

Old Post Mar-29-2007 00:29  United States
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metalgearsolid
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Sure you say that now; just wait until they begin the mass cow mutilations in Texas.
wtf?! That was one of the funniest shit ever. Other than Z's rantings. Aliens don't exist in this area. You just want to make up shit about Aliens and life on other planets to make up for our insignificant existance. But hey why should you care about outer space when we don't even know our own planet and all its life forms? We haven't even scratched the surface of the number of species on our planet and we have people like you who believe aliens came from outer space to study us and mutilate our cows. That is just pathetic.

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quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Why are people so keen on believing in Aliens? Do you guys know the Nazis were trying to develop flying saucers and antigravity technology? I'm not entirely sure about the latter anymore. No, I'm not joking, it was even on TV, a program on the discovery channel some time ago if I remember correctely. Can't UFOs and related phenomenon just be top sectret military aircrafts and experimentation with new technology or do those silly greys always have to be part of the picture?


Nazis did spend a great deal of time and money working on antigravity technology and saucers, the US has been using this as their footprint for the last 50 years or so. (Area 51)

http://www.stevequayle.com/High.Jum....Andromeda.html

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quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Why are people so keen on believing in Aliens? Do you guys know the Nazis were trying to develop flying saucers and antigravity technology? I'm not entirely sure about the latter anymore. No, I'm not joking, it was even on TV, a program on the discovery channel some time ago if I remember correctely. Can't UFOs and related phenomenon just be top sectret military aircrafts and experimentation with new technology or do those silly greys always have to be part of the picture?


Well the Nazi thing is possible, but where are the aircraft now? Most attempts to make flying saucers, even by our own military..well the ones never actually went off the ground. They just kind of wobbled around. Yes UFOs can be experimental aircraft, but that doesn't explain all the sightings, nor the technology that is used (where did it come from? who invented it? what kind of technology is being utilized to go such fast speeds?). Sure technological advances happen, and the power of the human mind is great to create these things, however reports of UFOs have been reported before many airplanes were even around. And the one thing that baffles me, is that if all of these experimental aircraft are just that..experimental and supposedly "top secret" then why are they flying all over the world for people to see? Especially that same Triangular craft that I posted....it was seen in Belgium and England in 89 (the one in Englad was reported by Military Police and a Sargent at the Bentwaters Airbase in Bentwaters, in Montreal, Quebec and Israel, in Indiana and Ohio by police officers and in Phoenix in the later 90s (besides those lights over the city, a triangular shaped craft was seen escorted by military helicopters outside of Phoenix). It very well might be experimental, it's just odd to fly around all over and even was spotted by commercial aircraft pilots...something just like it. The funny thing with that, is why would the US military fly something like that right by commercial aircraft? Seems quite dangerous if not illegal.

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Haunted
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wtf?! That was one of the funniest shit ever. Other than Z's rantings. Aliens don't exist in this area. You just want to make up shit about Aliens and life on other planets to make up for our insignificant existance. But hey why should you care about outer space when we don't even know our own planet and all its life forms? We haven't even scratched the surface of the number of species on our planet and we have people like you who believe aliens came from outer space to study us and mutilate our cows. That is just pathetic.


you're right, we definetely should learn more about the planet (global warming) and fix society (ethnocentricism, racism, ignorance, intolerance), but that doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that we live on a small rock in infinity. when you look up at night, do you look at the stars? did you know our sun is a star? don't you ever question?

i see nothing wrong with people thinking its aliens, because it very well could be. differing opinions and theories should never be silenced. the whole truth can't be known.


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i don't know abt ufo's. however i havew my own theory, maybe ufos are just time travellers from future times. When it comes to string theory and M theory i think it was said time travel could exist however we could only travel as far back in time as the time machine was made. (i forget why tho, i think it had something to do with creating a wormhole..blah i forget) anyways my point being is we know of cases of the government already testing saucer like crafts, could it be they have already made a time machine????


anyways back to my foil hat, and pulling out my cavity fillings

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metalgearsolid
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quote:
Originally posted by Haunted
you're right, we definetely should learn more about the planet (global warming) and fix society (ethnocentricism, racism, ignorance, intolerance), but that doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that we live on a small rock in infinity. when you look up at night, do you look at the stars? did you know our sun is a star? don't you ever question?

i see nothing wrong with people thinking its aliens, because it very well could be. differing opinions and theories should never be silenced. the whole truth can't be known.
I agree people need to solve all of society's ills before we can grow as one. I don't ignore the fact I mean holy crap our own galaxy is huge and we don't have any possibility of EVER exploring every area of the galaxy.


Look at that? There could be life anywhere in this galaxy and chances are life has mapped out where they are in our galaxy and like them are uncertain if their is life out there. But if you think about it every living thing is related because we are made up of the same atoms as the universe. So the universe is in all of us. Wondering is not good B/c it is easy to be overwhelmed by the sheer size and unknown in the universe. We don't know anything on how the universe was created or by whom. We just know that it is growing and it will eventually collapse ending all life in the universe.

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Vivid Boy
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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
I agree people need to solve all of society's ills before we can grow as one. I don't ignore the fact I mean holy crap our own galaxy is huge and we don't have any possibility of EVER exploring every area of the galaxy.


Look at that? There could be life anywhere in this galaxy and chances are life has mapped out where they are in our galaxy and like them are uncertain if their is life out there. But if you think about it every living thing is related because we are made up of the same atoms as the universe. So the universe is in all of us. Wondering is not good B/c it is easy to be overwhelmed by the sheer size and unknown in the universe. We don't know anything on how the universe was created or by whom. We just know that it is growing and it will eventually collapse ending all life in the universe.



we live a goldilock zone. as in if any of the variables that give us life were 1/10th different no life could exist. ex. if our planet was 3 degrees off its axis, we would have never existed. another example our world had to be stable for millions of years without any huge cosmic accidents. but this is almost impossible to make for example, we take the way atoms were made, a proton weighs slightly less than a neutron. Which means neutrons eventually decay into protons which occupy a lower state of energy. If the proton was 1 ppercent heavier, it would decay into a neutron , and all nuclei would become unstable and disintgrate. Atoms would fly apart making lif impossible. The list goes on abt how slight variances and how if slighht things happened differently for example the sun being a bit smaller gravity would be totally fucked, there would be no life whatsoever. You can take it anyway u want but its scientific fact. I think theres a good chance we're alone. however i do be believe in multiuniverses which is a whole different pile of shit to search thru.




edit: whoa i just reread that and realized how confusing it is with my crappy grammar. anyways what im trying to say is that basically we live in a zone where for some slight chance like 1 in a 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
it can sustain life. basically theres a good chance our existence was a fluke. but then again if our universe and mulituniveres are infinity, there could be a chance theres more of these goldilock zones? am i right?

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life may be somewhere in this galaxy. but if they haven't accepted jesus as their lifelong partner and savior, i'd rather not find them.
aliens betta speak hebrew.


For sure, there are other intelligent beings out there and I think certain governments on this earth know well beyond what our relationship with them are.
The two best theories i've heard, if they aren't that crazy, is that:
1. they are just here (right now) to study us, like the foreign primitive pieces of shit we are. bickering with nuclear technologies, looking for more way to kill ourselves off. Maybe we are such peices of shit, they have no regret on experimenting on humans, implants, abducting, or whatever.
2. Galaxies are at OMG war, and Earth is just another good territory with life resources (h20) to set up a bunker. Hell, there are maybe bases here in the ocean/underterrain which they'd rather not involve us in.

do aliens have morals? faith? emotions?
are these only inherit to human brains?


also, i remember reading a huge huge huge document when i was maybe, 11-12 years old. FUCK, it was huge. had a lot of shit about different alien types, aliens at war, secret military documents, etc. Could pass it off as fake, but, looking back, it was so fucking huge i don't know how someone could gather it all and still have the beginning complete relate to the end.


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