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Originally posted by Tony Morello it's not really about knowing your tracks as it's about knowing how music is structured 4, learn it, live it, love it after a lot of practice and listening to the music you learn to anticipate where things will happen and how they'll likely happen it will almost become second nature and you do it without thinking about it

I just want to make sure, I'm understanding this correctly. Once you hear the end of a phrase, you need to count off 4, 16 or 32 beats, right? Is that the point where you drop the cued track?

ha

ive just noticed that you press play on the incoming track after the last big breakdown

everything matches up from there....

u guys are trying to hide stuff from us noob DJs?!?!

just tell you elitists!!

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Originally posted by Andryuha I just want to make sure, I'm understanding this correctly. Once you hear the end of a phrase, you need to count off 4, 16 or 32 beats, right? Is that the point where you drop the cued track?

Listen to a track. Don't mix it, just listen.

When you hear a big crash, start counting the beats. At 16 or 32 you'll hear the music change, either another big crash or something added/lost or the music will start a new loop. That is one phrase.


@theognis, don't be a twit. Theres no secrets, no hiding, no elitism. You gotta work out how to mix by yourself like everyone else did.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Listen to a track. Don't mix it, just listen. When you hear a big crash, start counting the beats. At 16 or 32 you'll hear the music change, either another big crash or something added/lost or the music will start a new loop. That is one phrase.

That's what I thought

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Originally posted by theognis1002 ha ive just noticed that you press play on the incoming track after the last big breakdown everything matches up from there.... u guys are trying to hide stuff from us noob DJs?!?! just tell you elitists!!

Are you really that dumb or are you trying (and failing) to be funny?

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Originally posted by theognis1002 ha ive just noticed that you press play on the incoming track after the last big breakdown everything matches up from there.... u guys are trying to hide stuff from us noob DJs?!?! just tell you elitists!!

there ya go - thats phrasing for you

the more music you listen to, the better your brain becomes at knowing when to drop the next track in

if the tunes are beatmatched, phrased correctly and in compatible keys the mix should always sound reasonable unless you really cock up the faders/EQs

we're not hiding anything here, there's no secrets

you have to invest time to teach your brain how to listen and react to the music

the more time you spend behind the decks practicing, the more you're teaching your brain how this actually works

some pick it up quicker, especially those with a musical background

it just takes time

when i first got my tables i was playing about 5-9 hours a day for about 6 months then played my first gig, was a little shakey (very nervous) but it was good

point being, you have to practice... a lot

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Originally posted by Smiley there ya go - thats phrasing for you the more music you listen to, the better your brain becomes at knowing when to drop the next track in if the tunes are beatmatched, phrased correctly and in compatible keys the mix should always sound reasonable unless you really cock up the faders/EQs

Not to jack this thread, but I have a question about keys. I'm understanding a key, as for example, the differences in the "thickness" of a beat. Is that a correct assumption? Is that what determines whether two tracks go together?

The key of a track is a note, for example A maj, Emin etc

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Originally posted by AndskiSpeed The key of a track is a note, for example A maj, Emin etc

hmm, im not too familiar with english musical terminology. You're talking about major and minor, right? So when phrasing, you need to make sure that both tracks' phrases are written in the same key (major or minor). I'm I understanding this correctly?

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Originally posted by Andryuha Not to jack this thread, but I have a question about keys. I'm understanding a key, as for example, the differences in the "thickness" of a beat. Is that a correct assumption? Is that what determines whether two tracks go together?

my knowledge is very limited but i believe its the root note of the tune, so all the melodies etc are in the scale of that note (someone correct me there?)

i only go by camelot but if you tries to mix a tune in 12B to 5A for example it would probably sound pretty bad and disharmonious

you need to make sure the 2 tunes are in compatible keys (not necessarily the same)

a tune wont change key after a phrase (hopefully)