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Orko
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
No, not really. In truth, this was what DJs did and were supposed to do--play good and interesting music and not worry about styles or genres. I concur, Oakenfold's goa mix is fascinating, and probably the best mix he's ever done--it harkens back to the time when he once did balls-out things like turn out all the lights in his Heaven nightclub and play Tsaikovsky's 1812 Overture in its entirety (its 15 minutes long). Oakenfold has always had a penchance for the theatrics.


You've mentioned this a few times. When did he actually do this?

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distant
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quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
No, not really. In truth, this was what DJs did and were supposed to do--play good and interesting music and not worry about styles or genres. I concur, Oakenfold's goa mix is fascinating, and probably the best mix he's ever done--it harkens back to the time when he once did balls-out things like turn out all the lights in his Heaven nightclub and play Tsaikovsky's 1812 Overture in its entirety (its 15 minutes long). Oakenfold has always had a penchance for the theatrics.

The showmanship for the theatrics outshone the actual theatrics themselves about halfway through the decade however, such that by the time Tranceport rolled around, his mixes were no longer brimming with innovative qualities and his image had ballooned out of control. By 1998, he had morphed into some doofus on stage with his headphones pulled over his eyes playing maladroit trance.

His last semi-interesting mix was his Global Underground in New York. But even at that point you can tell he didn't care anymore. After that he was no more than a trancecracker DJ. Not coincidentally, that was about the point that most of you decided you liked trance music.


QFT.

The Goa Mix is good, but not groundbreaking. DJ's do this all the time, even myself (if you can even call me a DJ, mixing is just a hobby for me). Maybe you're just used to the usual trance-bash, but my reality is playing 5 or more genres in the same set. Jungle, acid, dubstep, grime, industrial, electro, detroit tech, you name it.

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Orko
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QFT.

The Goa Mix is good, but not groundbreaking. DJ's do this all the time, even myself (if you can even call me a DJ, mixing is just a hobby for me). Maybe you're just used to the usual trance-bash, but my reality is playing 5 or more genres in the same set. Jungle, acid, dubstep, grime, industrial, electro, detroit tech, you name it.


It may not be ground breaking, but not many people can play 5 different genres in a set and make is sound the least bit coherent.

If you can do so, I think some of us would be very interested in hearing a set

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Ishkur
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Vancouver, BC

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
You've mentioned this a few times. When did he actually do this?


1989.

quote:
Originally posted by distant
my reality is playing 5 or more genres in the same set. Jungle, acid, dubstep, grime, industrial, electro, detroit tech, you name it.


The mark of a good DJ.

If you only play one style of music in your set, you aren't doing a very good job of DJing.

quote:
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It may not be ground breaking, but not many people can play 5 different genres in a set and make is sound the least bit coherent.


Before the standard was lowered to the status of wedding and mobile DJ level of competence, this is essentially what every rave and club DJ did, and before the onset of digital decks, mind you.

A DJ limiting themselves to one genre of music is like a fat person limiting themselves to one type of food. When there's so much great stuff out there, why ignore 99% of it when it's your job not to?

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quote:
Originally posted by Orko
It may not be ground breaking, but not many people can play 5 different genres in a set and make is sound the least bit coherent.

If you can do so, I think some of us would be very interested in hearing a set


Well, I don't know if you'd find it "coherent", but I did a set with this tracklist once:

burial - u hurt me
bluetrain - red eye dubs vol. 1 (a1)
pinch - qawwali
shackleton - majestic visions
jung collective - street preacher (plaid remix)
claro intelecto - peace of mind
sunday brunch - my world (night drive mix)
jaydee - plastic dreams (pascal f.e.o.s. remix part 1)
black riot - a day in the life (bonus dub)
blakkat - blakkat (medic mix)
gary martin - samedi
k-alexi - sweet love
the plan - 8 miles wide
aaron carl - tears
blakdoktor - space explorer
surgeon - atol
sintox - within yourself
the mover - nightflight (nonstop 2 kaos)
elektrosmog - enter the dragon (remix)
clemens neufeld - aaatem
mike dearborn - deviant behaviour (mental mix)
purple plejade - blanche

I could upload it if you want. The mixing (done with a computer application) is pretty average though I must say. It's dubstep, dub, electro, house, detroit tech, techno and some acidy stuff towards the end.

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Subtle
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If you only play one style of music in your set, you aren't doing a very good job of DJing.
Well.. where I live.. thats what all DJs are doing.. they are playing rock, pop, and R`n`B.. they suck, and i hate them..


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Well.. where I live.. thats what all DJs are doing.. they are playing rock, pop, and R`n`B.. they suck, and i hate them..


You've got the causalities confused here. They suck because they play horrible music, not because their sets include a lot of genres.

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Sand Leaper
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Eternal Spirit doesn't sound like Escape, Escape sounds like Eternal Spirit.

Kay Cee blatantly ripped it off.


Pete Namlook is credited on the release, so there's no ripping off to speak of really.


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Llistened to hour two of the mix on my way back from Miami after the WMC 2007!!! Still a fuckin classic mint example of Oakey at his finest.


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link please? i am getting into oakie's older stuff like his '99 EM world tour, and his GUs : new york and oslo

but i'd like to get into his waaay older stuff too haha


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s3nate
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver

Big bump lol.


I think the only way to find this mix is to either torrent/p2p or ebay the 2cd one.



I think lots of dj's around that time did stuff like Oakie did. Check out Kid Paul & Paul van Dyk's Clubnight from 1993 (if you can find it).

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jesusisgod
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Location: Los Angeles, CA

Is this it?

Paul Oakenfold Broadcasted on Sunday 18th December, 1994

Rise - "Orange" (Perfecto)
Li Kwan - "Point Zero" (Seka)
Ennio Morricone - "Friends" (Mercury)
V Symmetry - "Vaporize" (Eye Q)
Vanelis - "Tears in the Rain" (East West)
Eugiena - "Salt Tank" (white label)
Hallucinogen - "LSD" (Dragon Fly)
Goa Gill - "Near to the Divine" (DAT)
Wojciech Kilar - "Vampire Hunters" (Columbia)
Electrotete - "Alcatraz" (DAT)
Vangelis - "Main Titles" (East West)
John Williams - "Schindler's Workforce" (MCA)
Man With No Name - "Floor Essence" (DAT)
Scorpio Riding - "Bugcater" (DAT)
The Infinity Project - "Stimuli" (DAT)
Metalheads - "Innner City Life" (ffrr)
Wojciech Kilar - "Love Remembered"
Voodoo People - "Co-Incidence" (DAT)
Total Eclipse - "Waiting for a new Life" (DAT)
Trance Team - "Wake Up" (diki)
V-Tracks - "Heretic Voices" (Hotside)
Marmion - "Schoneberg" (Pure Energy)
Ennio Morricone - "Vita Nostra" (Virgin)
Karl Biscuit - "Aktualismus" (MTM)
Rise - "Sun" (Perfecto)
Man With No Name - "Deliverance" (DAT)
Perfecto Allstars - "Reach Up" (Perfecto)
Para-Dizer - "Songs of Liberation" (Dos or Die)
Dead Can Dance - "Sanvean" (4AD)
4 Voice - "Eternal Spirit" (Rising High)
Zen Paradox - "Fornicator" (MDS)

[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


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