Believe it or not, gasoline is still one of the cheapest forms of energy you can get. (Learned this from a guest lecture at stanford)

edit: the problem is combustion engines are so inefficient with all that energy

I saw the $4.17 price too. However, it was a more normal price just down the street.

that gas station is always horrible isnt it? i remeber anytime i passed that station it was always mad expensive compared to ones just down a few blocks.

Noooo not the Shell on 6th & Harrison!!! thats the gas station i hit up after a long nite at 1015. ITS OVVVVEEEERRRR!!!

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there's a chevron across the street that's 40-50 cents cheaper. there's also another shell on 5th and folsom which is about the same price. i think the one on 6th and harrison is abnormal because of the seasonal change to summer blend and/or they are low on supply

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Originally posted by lex400sc there's a chevron across the street that's 40-50 cents cheaper. there's also another shell on 5th and folsom which is about the same price. i think the one on 6th and harrison is abnormal because of the seasonal change to summer blend and/or they are low on supply

yeah but thats still ridiculously more.

there was a gas station in el cajon 2 years ago that had the priviledge of being the first gas station to charge over $4/gal. they did so because their supply was almost dry.

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Originally posted by lex400sc there was a gas station in el cajon 2 years ago that had the priviledge of being the first gas station to charge over $4/gal. they did so because their supply was almost dry.

lol thats cause its in bfe!

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Originally posted by JoNMiTz Believe it or not, gasoline is still one of the cheapest forms of energy you can get. (Learned this from a guest lecture at stanford) edit: the problem is combustion engines are so inefficient with all that energy

All of the energy dissipates as heat. I think we should just ignore the problem and maybe it will fix itself

I love to see Excursions, Suburbans, Escalades etc. with one person in the vehicle during the morning and afternoon commute. I wonder what logic they used in making the decision to drive an SUV that gets less than 13mpg when they will almost always be traveling ALONE. That alone isn't enough, they also have to slap 22 inch rims on their "whip" to bling it up because they have no idea as to what inertia is.

cheapness of petroleum energy is not the issue on the table. the issue is that we've been blessed, truly blessed like no one even realizes, with a bountiful resource of energy in crude oil. a resource that has given us the ability to industrialize and expand our horizons in every aspect of our lives. a resource that took millions and millions of years and millions upon millions of tons of prehistoric biomass to create. it's allowed us to discover new sources of energy unthinkable without it.

today we are WASTING that resource at unprecedented rates by extracting crude oil from the ground faster than the planet creates it and burning it on stupid ass things like h2 hummers and the iraq war. when we reach peak oil production, which will be very soon, EVERYTHING in the world goes downhill from there. the entire premise of capitalism depends on continual growth. the economy cannot continually expand when our ability to fuel it begins to diminish. it will become too expensive to transport common goods, to drive our cars, the power heavy machinery, to make steel, to harvest crops, forget about taking a sabbatical and travelling the world. businesses will stop investing, banks will stop loaning, consumers will stop throwing money into the economy and a shittonne of jobs will be dissolved. many wars will be fought before the wells run dry. this is all inevitability if we don't learn to make immediate adjustments. biofuels are nice and all for cars, but you can't fly a plane on biodiesel. there are certain things, certain important things we need to spare crude oil for. why we are, to this very moment, still manufacturing 4-ton soccer mom buses that burn a gallon of gasoline every 7 miles is beyond me.

and this doesn't even begin to address the fact that every gallon of gas burned puts 20 pounds of carbon into the atmosphere. we put 18 million tonnes of co2 into the atmosphere every day. this all rapidly accelerates the thawing of our ice caps. next time you go to the beach, bring a 40-foot pole with you and stand it up. when the ice caps have completely melted off, that's where sea level will be.

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Last edited by R!CH on Apr-03-2007 at 07:59

For all the OC'ers going to LA, the chevron off of bellflower is 3.40 for 91. I think thats some of the best I've seen anywhere here