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Originally posted by Marc Summers Ford was going to in the 60's, I believe. LOL!

Ford was awesome.
He once built a car from hemp and wheat straw!

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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

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Originally posted by digitul punk Don't toot that "freedom" horn of yours sweetheart, your "freedom" is being taking away from you as we speak.

Nothing 'sweet' about me, I was one of the last 'european' framers out of Zimbabwe. I know all about loss from government interference in private affairs and I also had to fight for it to get out alive.
My only regret is we didn't 'farm oil' and then your nice little western democracies that you live in and make your nice little cloistered judgements on others from, might have actually given a stuff before the country went completely to hell, pulled out a pick and dug it to a whole new level of depravity.
I was only very young when I visited Iran, 2 years after the war with Iraq ended and my stepfather was working there as an engineer helping to rebuild parts of the infrastructure. There are good people living there but they just need to remove the extremists from power before they have a chance, otherwise they may as well stay in the middle ages.

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Originally posted by Purple Jeez I cannot believe I have to spoon feed you..

I'll spoon feed you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Rivers_of_Iran


And if Iran is a large, desert wasteland, it would seem they have plenty of area to set up solar and wind power stations. Both of those are both environmentally and internationally friendly.

Bottom line: Iran has alternatives to nuclear power that cold save everyone the trouble, including Iran.

Open wide for the airplane!!

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Originally posted by Krypton Ever thought nuclear weapons in the hands of a widely-known state sponsor of terrorism wasn't such a good idea? Becuase, I sure don't. The reason America can have weapons is because the USA can be trusted with them.

LOL

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by Lilith Nothing 'sweet' about me, I was one of the last 'european' framers out of Zimbabwe. I know all about loss from government interference in private affairs and I also had to fight for it to get out alive. My only regret is we didn't 'farm oil' and then your nice little western democracies that you live in and make your nice little cloistered judgements on others from, might have actually given a stuff before the country went completely to hell, pulled out a pick and dug it to a whole new level of depravity. I was only very young when I visited Iran, 2 years after the war with Iraq ended and my stepfather was working there as an engineer helping to rebuild parts of the infrastructure. There are good people living there but they just need to remove the extremists from power before they have a chance, otherwise they may as well stay in the middle ages.

That extremism merely arises from the Israeli Occupation and people fail to see this. They'll blame everything but the main freaking cause... Israel. As long as Israel is going to occupy arab land... conflict will always arise. Unless there's a miracle of "diplomacy" I don't see an end to this. Iran is the ONLY government in the Middle East that's standing upto the western pressure... Everyone usually just bends over and takes it up the butt.

Remember, one man's enemy is another's hero.

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this isn't Israel's fault. Israel isn't going anywhere. It's the arabs own fault for not accepting the times and moving forward. they're stuck in the past, but thats what dogmatic religion does i guess.

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Originally posted by digitul punk That extremism merely arises from the Israeli Occupation and people fail to see this. They'll blame everything but the main freaking cause... Israel.

Oh give it a rest already. Most of the problems in the Middle East aren't b/c of Israel. That's just an overused convient excuse.
Egypt is at peace with Israel and things seem to be pretty stable over there. Same goes for Jordan.
The problems in the Palestinian territories, while being two-sided, are in large part the result of different Palestinians factions.
The problems in Lebanon on the other hand are more about the fact that the Shiites in the South have a hard time co-existing with the Sunnis and Christian Arabs in central and northern Lebanon.
The problems in Algeria and Lybia have nothing to do with Israel.
The problems in Iraq have nothing to do with Israel, and you can bet your last dollar that the problems in Iran have nothing whatsoever to do with Israel.

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Originally posted by CHRles Oh give it a rest already. Most of the problems in the Middle East aren't b/c of Israel. That's just an overused convient excuse. Egypt is at peace with Israel and things seem to be pretty stable over there. Same goes for Jordan. The problems in the Palestinian territories, while being two-sided, are in large part the result of different Palestinians factions. The problems in Lebanon on the other hand are more about the fact that the Shiites in the South have a hard time co-existing with the Sunnis and Christian Arabs in central and northern Lebanon. The problems in Algeria and Lybia have nothing to do with Israel. The problems in Iraq have nothing to do with Israel, and you can bet your last dollar that the problems in Iran have nothing whatsoever to do with Israel.

Congratulations, you've bought all of the information that Fox fed you. Tell you what... goto al-jazeera.com, goto cnn.com and goto bbc.com and gulfnews.com ... forget about what you've read... have a clear objective mind and start reading the news regularly on these sites. Get an idea (from both sides, that is) of what the hell is ACTUALLY going on and then come talk to me. You obviously don't know how many people die in Palestine and Iraq on a daily basis... it's mass genocide.

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Originally posted by CHRles Oh give it a rest already. Most of the problems in the Middle East aren't b/c of Israel. That's just an overused convient excuse. Egypt is at peace with Israel and things seem to be pretty stable over there. Same goes for Jordan. The problems in the Palestinian territories, while being two-sided, are in large part the result of different Palestinians factions. The problems in Lebanon on the other hand are more about the fact that the Shiites in the South have a hard time co-existing with the Sunnis and Christian Arabs in central and northern Lebanon. The problems in Algeria and Lybia have nothing to do with Israel. The problems in Iraq have nothing to do with Israel, and you can bet your last dollar that the problems in Iran have nothing whatsoever to do with Israel.

thats the damn truth right there, but you left out Syria. you know, the ones who assasinated Lebanese Premier, Rafik Hariri. that took real courage. shithole.

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Originally posted by digitul punk Congratulations, you've bought all of the information that Fox fed you. Tell you what... goto al-jazeera.com, goto cnn.com and goto bbc.com and gulfnews.com ... forget about what you've read... have a clear objective mind and start reading the news regularly on these sites. Get an idea (from both sides, that is) of what the hell is ACTUALLY going on and then come talk to me. You obviously don't know how many people die in Palestine and Iraq on a daily basis... it's mass genocide.

oh now it's Fox news!!!!!!




that is some tired shit right there. i bet you still listen to Crystal Method too?

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Originally posted by digitul punk mass genocide.

redundant.