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THE man found guilty of raping a woman as punishment for reading the Bible lured her to his unit by claiming he had news of her family overseas. Abdul Reda al-Shawany was today found guilty of sexually assaulting the then-Muslim mother of four - a refugee from the Middle East who had left her children and husband behind - for her "insult" to Islam. She had been studying the Bible because she was interested in Christianity. After the attack, at al-Shawany's Warwick Farm unit in Septmeber 2002, she converted. It took a jury just half an hour to convict al-Shawany, 52, of two counts of assault at Campbelltown District Court. Even after the decision was handed down he protested his innocence, with his lawyer Christopher Pike indicating his intention to appeal. He said there was a viable alternative hypothesis as to how al-Shawany's DNA, in the form of semen, came to be on the victim's underwear - and that he believed his client could be acquitted on appeal. An application for bail was refused by Judge Brian Knox, who said that the crime was "a fairly brutal attack". Al-Shawany will be sentenced in the Downing Centre on Friday, June 15th. His victim was not in court today.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21613300-2,00.html

i mean seriously. i might have a bit of a chip on my shoulder about religion, but what is it about fanatics that feel so fucking righteous that everyone else is wrong and should be punished?

you wouldnt find an atheist raping someone for reading the bible. what IS it about religion that gives people such delusions?

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What the hell does this have to do with religion? This is why I never take critics like you seriously, because you're criticizing actions of individuals that are contrary to religion X's teachings. Seriously, there's nothing more ignorant than that. That's kind of like me pissing on the constituion because the Bush Administration is torturing people in Guantanamo. That's about as much sense as most of you make. If you wanted criticize a specific religion, at least have a clue what you're talking about.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z If you wanted criticize a specific religion, at least have a clue what you're talking about.

Typical... so typical...

How can one learn about this "Islam" when everyone that is supposedly an expert seems to have a condescending attitude to the "clueless" ones??

Maybe its because your religion has conditioned you and every other Muslim to not ask questions. Not to ask "why". Just do what is written.

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I don't have the double digit jock IQ that you do. So I don't prescribe to your dualistic framework of "my team" v.s "their team." Grow up. It's kinda sad having to say that to a 'grown' man well in his thirties.

Oh here we go again, just because I am in my 30's I can't ask questions? I am not allowed to inquire why the Islamic Religion is seen the way it is. You had the prefect opportunity to be a mature Muslim and open some eyes here, but instead, You Talk Down to me and others. You tell me that unless I learn Arabic, I will never fully understand the Koran. Then you sit here and insult my age. Big Deal if I am in my 30's? Is there an age limit on knowledge and wanting to gain more of it.
Plus My team vs Your team?? I listed passages from the Bible just cause more people on here could relates to the passages and see the difference your prophet and the Christian prophet. I could of listed other things , the 4 Noble Truths or how about some Hindu teachings. I am not a Christian, ,,,, I just wanted to ask ,,,,, but that is so typical of You, in the face of adversity, you resort to name calling and attacks on people.
The sure sign of being a big baby...so whats worse, a 30 something year old asking questions about religion or a 20 year old that resorts to personal attacks on someone that just wants a straight answer.. Maybe you are not the expert on Islam as you profess. Maybe as Q5's Avatar states, YOU DON'T KNOW DICK.

The one thing that turned my off about Christianity is the Holier than Thou Attitude.....it looks like that same attitude is also among you Muslims.....
oh well Cest la vie

1) Do you know how to read?

2) Can you argue the topic at hand? A pretty stupid one too I might add.

3) Have you always been a defensive little prick?

4) This follows from question 3. Do always attack someone you're arguing with because you simply don't have a single valid point and you obviously can't refute anything?

5) Why do you bother posting in the PDD?

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z 1) Do you know how to read?

Uh no....

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2) Can you argue the topic at hand? A pretty stupid one too I might add.

Stupid, thats your opinion.....

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3) Have you always been a defensive little prick?

thats the pot calling the kettle black.

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4) This follows from question 3. Do always attack someone you're arguing with because you simply don't have a single valid point and you obviously can't refute anything?

attack, and the age swipe you swung is nothing??

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5) Why do you bother posting in the PDD?

Just to keep you in check Z, just to keep you in check

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Originally posted by LazFX Typical... so typical... How can one learn about this "Islam" when everyone that is supposedly an expert seems to have a condescending attitude to the "clueless" ones?? Maybe its because your religion has conditioned you and every other Muslim to not ask questions. Not to ask "why". Just do what is written.

I wasn't talking to you, I was responding to PKC's post.

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Originally posted by LazFX Oh here we go again, just because I am in my 30's I can't ask questions? I am not allowed to inquire why the Islamic Religion is seen the way it is. You had the prefect opportunity to be a mature Muslim and open some eyes here, but instead, You Talk Down to me and others. You tell me that unless I learn Arabic, I will never fully understand the Koran. Then you sit here and insult my age. Big Deal if I am in my 30's? Is there an age limit on knowledge and wanting to gain more of it. Plus My team vs Your team?? I listed passages from the Bible just cause more people on here could relates to the passages and see the difference your prophet and the Christian prophet. I could of listed other things , the 4 Noble Truths or how about some Hindu teachings. I am not a Christian, ,,,, I just wanted to ask ,,,,, but that is so typical of You, in the face of adversity, you resort to name calling and attacks on people. The sure sign of being a big baby...so whats worse, a 30 something year old asking questions about religion or a 20 year old that resorts to personal attacks on someone that just wants a straight answer.. Maybe you are not the expert on Islam as you profess. Maybe as Q5's Avatar states, YOU DON'T KNOW DICK. The one thing that turned my off about Christianity is the Holier than Thou Attitude.....it looks like that same attitude is also among you Muslims..... oh well Cest la vie

Apparently you're too stupid to even understand anything I've said so far, as demonstrated by your amazingly defensive, juvenile responses, and your wild imagination. Do have anything intelligent to say?

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by LazFX Uh no.... Stupid, thats your opinion..... thats the pot calling the kettle black. attack, and the age swipe you swung is nothing?? Just to keep you in check Z, just to keep you in check

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. You eigther have the poorest comprehension skills ever, or you really are that dumb and neurotic. Eigther way, that's pretty sad. I hope you grow a brain one day, and a pair of balls. And I'm not being sarcastic... unfortunately.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by LazFX Typical... so typical... How can one learn about this "Islam" when everyone that is supposedly an expert seems to have a condescending attitude to the "clueless" ones?? Maybe its because your religion has conditioned you and every other Muslim to not ask questions. Not to ask "why". Just do what is written. Oh here we go again, just because I am in my 30's I can't ask questions? I am not allowed to inquire why the Islamic Religion is seen the way it is. You had the prefect opportunity to be a mature Muslim and open some eyes here, but instead, You Talk Down to me and others. You tell me that unless I learn Arabic, I will never fully understand the Koran. Then you sit here and insult my age. Big Deal if I am in my 30's? Is there an age limit on knowledge and wanting to gain more of it. Plus My team vs Your team?? I listed passages from the Bible just cause more people on here could relates to the passages and see the difference your prophet and the Christian prophet. I could of listed other things , the 4 Noble Truths or how about some Hindu teachings. I am not a Christian, ,,,, I just wanted to ask ,,,,, but that is so typical of You, in the face of adversity, you resort to name calling and attacks on people. The sure sign of being a big baby...so whats worse, a 30 something year old asking questions about religion or a 20 year old that resorts to personal attacks on someone that just wants a straight answer.. Maybe you are not the expert on Islam as you profess. Maybe as Q5's Avatar states, YOU DON'T KNOW DICK. The one thing that turned my off about Christianity is the Holier than Thou Attitude.....it looks like that same attitude is also among you Muslims..... oh well Cest la vie

Laz please stop being a racist asshole. It isn't funny.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I hope you grow a brain one day, and a pair of balls. And I'm not being sarcastic... unfortunately.

more insults....???? You know Z, you are a pretty smart... in your own mind, Cause most people that continue to throw insults and knock others down are just in need of an ego boost....
I think the only thing I ever stated to you in this thread is the swipe about Q5's Avatar.....and just reading the majority of your other posts here can arm a person with mountains of shite to throw in your face.
But since I am so old, as you point out, I am above that childish B.S. I am sure that there might be others on here that would agree with me, but they have not the want to have you throw insults at them, or call them stupid or ignorant. You see, Z, I am happy with myself....I have no ego to bruise.... so insults by some naive college student don't bother me.... so insult all you want.... its just making your true self shine on through....
P.S. I will pray for you Z.....

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It's a clever marketing ploy.

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Originally posted by Zild Laz please stop being a racist asshole. It isn't funny.

Racist?? Zild, please man, how is asking questions about a religion bieng racist?? I just want some answers and all I got bro was I was stupid, ignornat and well, you can read...

Plus Latino's can't be racists

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Originally posted by LazFX more insults....???? You know Z, you are a pretty smart... in your own mind, Cause most people that continue to throw insults and knock others down are just in need of an ego boost.... I think the only thing I ever stated to you in this thread is the swipe about Q5's Avatar.....and just reading the majority of your other posts here can arm a person with mountains of shite to throw in your face. But since I am so old, as you point out, I am above that childish B.S. I am sure that there might be others on here that would agree with me, but they have not the want to have you throw insults at them, or call them stupid or ignorant. You see, Z, I am happy with myself....I have no ego to bruise.... so insults by some naive college student don't bother me.... so insult all you want.... its just making your true self shine on through.... P.S. I will pray for you Z.....

Ok. Apparently you're also very good at contradicting yourself. You project so much of your subconcious attitude it's not even funny, and by now I honestly think you don't realize it.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller