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Originally posted by chinamon are you talking about hismanal?

no, never heard of that. googl'ing now though. i dont wanna be the one to say the name, i was wondering if anyone knew what i meant.

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Originally posted by MikeyN no, never heard of that. googl'ing now though. i dont wanna be the one to say the name, i was wondering if anyone knew what i meant.

i just asked my dad (hes a pharmacist) and i was wrong. it is sudafed (pseudoephedrine hydrochloride). the reason why it is considered speed is because the human body changes the pseudoephedrine in to ephedrine.

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Originally posted by chinamon i just asked my dad (hes a pharmacist) and i was wrong. it is sudafed (pseudoephedrine hydrochloride). the reason why it is considered speed is because the human body changes the pseudoephedrine in to ephedrine.

what? it's be nice if the body could magically change one enantiomer to another, but that doesn't happen (if it did we'd all be getting blitzed on levomethorphan!). the main metabolite of psuedoephedrine is nor-pseudoephedrine, which is desmethylated at the amine. because of the beta hydroxy position and the stereoisomer pseudoephedrine both doesn't pass the blood brain barrier and has a low affinity for the dopamine and norepinephrine transporter, making the general effects on the cns mild. i used to take craploads (into the 100s of mg) and mostly got mild effects.

d-ephedrine is more effective but again struggles with the BBB and thus kinda sucks. the 'new' party pills that are out now are all piperazines, mostly a combination of BZP and TFMPP, which I don't trust as there's been barely anything in the way of studies for them, especially in combination. piperazines are generally a functional group you'd be best off not ingesting because your liver struggles with them!

anyway if you really want piperazines this place is supposed to be reputable and at least they list their contents:
http://dreamlikecreations.net/partyp.htm

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Originally posted by Masonious you win again dude - and nice move shoving the whole i figured out how to order pizza thing in my face. i tried that 4 and a half months ago and woke up with a Taiwanese transvestite but to Ygrene it's just, "anoother day in the life, noooo biggieee".

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Originally posted by Fast Turtle what? it's be nice if the body could magically change one enantiomer to another, but that doesn't happen (if it did we'd all be getting blitzed on levomethorphan!). the main metabolite of psuedoephedrine is nor-pseudoephedrine, which is desmethylated at the amine. because of the beta hydroxy position and the stereoisomer pseudoephedrine both doesn't pass the blood brain barrier and has a low affinity for the dopamine and norepinephrine transporter, making the general effects on the cns mild. i used to take craploads (into the 100s of mg) and mostly got mild effects. d-ephedrine is more effective but again struggles with the BBB and thus kinda sucks. the 'new' party pills that are out now are all piperazines, mostly a combination of BZP and TFMPP, which I don't trust as there's been barely anything in the way of studies for them, especially in combination. piperazines are generally a functional group you'd be best off not ingesting because your liver struggles with them! anyway if you really want piperazines this place is supposed to be reputable and at least they list their contents: http://dreamlikecreations.net/partyp.htm

i dunno... i was just repeating what my dad told me. he didnt go in to detail but thats what he said.

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Originally posted by chinamon i dunno... i was just repeating what my dad told me. he didnt go in to detail but thats what he said.

Certain makes of Sudafed have high levels of psuedoephedrine, which is why drug stores are starting to keep them behind the counter. This is because they can very easily be used in the production of a certain drug. But, as far as I know your body can't change it from psuedoephedrine to ephedrine, it's done chemically in the production of this drug.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker You're a legal party pill!!!

LOL!

I can't believe the saying "You're a" and whatever the person just said, made it all the way over here. Probably is used by a lot of people, I've just never heard anyone say it that wasn't from where I live, so It's more funny to me lol

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Originally posted by misslexxus So has anyone tried them or not? I just got a free sample.

Where'd you get them from?

Give em a try at Ferry and let us know what they're like

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Originally posted by Provocative_boi The weekend is just two days away.LOL Please write a detailed review of how they are and stuff.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Where'd you get them from? Give em a try at Ferry and let us know what they're like

lol

Peer pressure peer pressure! Come on man, you'll be cool!

lol

They've got a picture of a woman wearing a cowboy hat, that means it must be good!

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Originally posted by Playa24_7 lol Peer pressure peer pressure! Come on man, you'll be cool! lol

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