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How much do you value the feedback of others in promotion section?
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Loads. I take on board every comment and adjust my track accordingly 9 18.75%
I listen to feedback but will dismiss as many comments as I'll take on board 26 54.17%
I'll post my tracks in there but I don't take too much notice of peoples comments 6 12.50%
Why would I post my tracks in there so that a bunch of amateurs can give "ME" advice 7 14.58%
Total: 48 votes 100%
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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

quote:
Originally posted by richg101
i get the feeling a lot of people who critique a lot on TA have little experience of edm and often dont know how a track will work in its given place.


I will second that.

In answer to the main question.
I usually post the tracks here, when I get around to it that is to see what sort of reaction in terms of if other people want to play this out or not rather than technical help.
That said, I am always open to learning and will happilly take on board anything constructive that people have to say. Will often leave it for my next production though as by the time I have finished a track I don't really want to revisit it.

A lot of my stuff can be too hard or outlandish for many including the label I'm with so it kind of stays within my own realm.
I haven't posted here in a long time so for many I guess I would be like a new face to them.

Cheers
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MaxC
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Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago, IL

Hmmm, last time I posted a track here I was told to start using some VST's to upgrade the quality of my sound... Of course the entire song was made using VST's, so needless to say I have never posted another song here since.

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R.j.
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: L, TX, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_

One thing I see happening more often though is this:
New & even existing TA producers come in & post up their track & expect comments without checking out other peoples turns & commenting on them. People then wonder why they get "0" replies. The general rule should be post your track up & then review 4 tracks minimum. Review 2 Un-responded threads & then 2 personal selections. By doing this the review system will work much better & you'll see less of those '0 replies'.

Post 1 track, review 4. It's simple! & the music promotional section will become more active because of it!


I disagree, actually. (to an extent, that is)

With that, you'll have so much 'effort-less' feedback. Meaning, somebody will give comments 'just' to get replies on their tracks. I'm pretty sure at first it would be pretty sweet if this were actually a system everybody followed. But, as time progressed, I figure feedback would become nothing but useless comments from people who desperately want feedback themselves.


But I agree with you when you say that 'if you want feedback, you should make an effort to post quality comments yourself'; it's only fair.


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echosystm
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i would only listen to people i know have a clue...

diginerd, diginut, mr. mystery, cyrus, etc.

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
i would only listen to people i know have a clue...

diginerd, diginut, mr. mystery, cyrus, etc.

Nah man, I'm just faking it.


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wrzonance
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Seattle, WA

I post in MPP for the following responses:

"I like it"

or

"I don't like it"

For technical advice on mixing, or synth programming, or other nerdy things-- I come here.


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daeus
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: London

When I first started using Cubase I was posting half made tracks for feedback.

I'm too afraid after now using Cubase to produce since last summer of posting any tracks because of the risk of parts of it being stolen.

It still seems really unclear the best way to protect your track before you get a label to take it.

Also it would be hard to protect if not impossible part of a tune your working on you may wish to post online?

I send my unfinished works to a select few people I know on msn and in RL, I would love to post my unfinished stuff for tips/opinions though.


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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by daeus
When I first started using Cubase I was posting half made tracks for feedback.

I'm too afraid after now using Cubase to produce since last summer of posting any tracks because of the risk of parts of it being stolen.

It still seems really unclear the best way to protect your track before you get a label to take it.

Also it would be hard to protect if not impossible part of a tune your working on you may wish to post online?

I send my unfinished works to a select few people I know on msn and in RL, I would love to post my unfinished stuff for tips/opinions though.


In reality the fact that you have posted it on a forum leaves an electronic trail, which actually does stand up in court. Not to mention certain other things you can do.

That said, unless your tracks are really good (and I'm not saying they are not) the chances of someone stealing them are fairly slim.

You do occassionaly get some asshole on e-bay trying to sell tracks from forums.

I don't think this should put you off and if anything you are preventing from getting your music to a wider audience and above all else, getting useful tips and hints from the community.

I'm always interested in hearing stuff as I play out on a regular basis so if you want to pm me you can. I will listen and will push stuff that I like to the unsuspecting masses in clubland.

Cheers
Nem


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by daeus

I'm too afraid after now using Cubase to produce since last summer of posting any tracks because of the risk of parts of it being stolen.

In all my years I have never heard this happen anywhere. Sure, there are people who claim it happened to them or that someone stole their tune but it's ended up being complete BS or sheer paranoia every single time.

If you're never going to let anyone hear your tracks, you're never going to get anywhere either.


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Nemesis44
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
If you're never going to let anyone hear your tracks, you're never going to get anywhere either.


Absolutely!


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substorm
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tranceland

I dont post anymore cus you are like me. Producers that has a couple of years behind them listens to so many details it just doesnt give anything.. hehe.. Dont mean to sound rude here, cus i rally appriciated it back when i had no experience at all. Now i just turn to pure listeners and labels where i get a yes or no.. hehehe.. thats enough.

Eather the track has something or not, then if it has a hihat that maybe goes to high or a kick thats to weak i will be aware of that in someway, cus these elemets is something that eaven a experienced listener can tell me. Or if a label wants it they will tell it to me also i then go from that and correct it.

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zodiac9
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Houston, TX

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
In reality the fact that you have posted it on a forum leaves an electronic trail, which actually does stand up in court. Not to mention certain other things you can do.

That said, unless your tracks are really good (and I'm not saying they are not) the chances of someone stealing them are fairly slim.

You do occassionaly get some asshole on e-bay trying to sell tracks from forums.

Cheers
Nem


I would be more concerned with plagiarism, someone stealing your melodies, arrangements, ect, and changing them just enough so that they aren't breaking any copyright laws. There will be nothing you can do about it. If you post a track on a forum, people will assume that there's no copyright on it, and that it hasn't been signed to a label. They'll feel more at liberty to steal or plagerise it. Going to court is something you really want to avoid. Who needs that hassle? Most of the time, if someone steals your music, or plagiarizes it, you'll never even know it. Someone could sign it to a label, and you'll be non the wiser, because there are way too many labels to keep up with.

Bottom line is, if you have a decent track, don't post it anywhere online. Get it signed to a label, most people will be afraid to steal music from an established label, because they know that the music is copyrighted, and they know that a label has very solid legal legs to stand on.

Just know what you're getting into is all. There are a lot of rotten people out there, the music business is full of them. One bad experience will sober you up real quick.


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