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Rick Mage
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I go both ways...


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Zack Roth
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whatever works for you I guess. When you start djing out, being able to beatmatch with one ear to the cued track and one to the monitors will become important. I am a resident dj at a very well known venue in NYC, and we play on a Urei Rotary mixer that only allows for one channel to be cued at a time. I have seen quite a few big named djs freak out because they beatmatch with their headphones on normally, and can't in this club. So, try and learn the one ear on, one ear off method if you are going to be playing out.


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Rick Mage
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As long as the mixer has gain controls, I can cue mix....In fact, that's what I mainly used to cue mix. I hard ever used the cue knob of any mixer. I can hear more that way.


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Nemesis44
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quote:
Originally posted by Rick Mage
As long as the mixer has gain controls, I can cue mix....In fact, that's what I mainly used to cue mix. I hard ever used the cue knob of any mixer. I can hear more that way.


No offence, but I have absolutely no idea what you just said...

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agentdansmith
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No offence, but I have absolutely no idea what you just said...

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I didn't get that either....
How do you only use the GAINS for cue your music?


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Spoonz
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Why do you use one ear mainly, if you are more confident with both cups?


i learnt using one ear and it's the way i have always done it. only when the speaker setup makes it difficult, ie: as already stated, if the speakers are at a lower than ideal height or too much surrounding noise/feedback, will i use both "cups"

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i learnt using one ear and it's the way i have always done it. only when the speaker setup makes it difficult, ie: as already stated, if the speakers are at a lower than ideal height or too much surrounding noise/feedback, will i use both "cups"


ok I get it =)


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ok I get it =)


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Re: learn as many ways as you can...

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As said before, you never know what situation you'll encounter when playing out. The Rane MP2016 is popular down here, and it's strictly 1 in, 1 out monitoring on that mixer.


Ha! Sorry, but that's no longer true. Rane updated their MP2016, and now they added CUE/PGM Mix feature. The new mixer is the MP2016a.

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Re: Re: learn as many ways as you can...

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Ha! Sorry, but that's no longer true. Rane updated their MP2016, and now they added CUE/PGM Mix feature. The new mixer is the MP2016a.




Slight contradiction there.


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Rick Mage
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I didn't get that either....
How do you only use the GAINS for cue your music?


If you have both channel on, you can listen to both tunes at the same time.....You can then use the gains to control the volume of what you hear. Like how loud of the tune, that you are coming with, you wanna hear. I usally just use the mids or treble gain. That's if the mixer will allow you to listen to both channels at the same time. I have never known of a mixer, with gain controls, that will not let you listen to both channels at the same time.

If they got one...what kind of a piece of shit is that mixer??? And what kind of shitty club would have one?? They do want the DJs, who cue mix, to spin well don't they??? Or do they just get their rocks off laughing at them if they can't cue on that mixer, while club goers leave their club?? You would think they can afford a decent mixer....

However, I am a veteran DJ. I can DJ without using the cue if need be. I always practice both ways. I just takes me a little longer to mix. I can get a beat matched, while cue mixing in 20 to 30 seconds at the most. Sometimes within 5 to 10 seconds. The other way, takes me about two minutes..at the most..or less. I can get the beat match pretty close within 30 seconds. I'm just not sure...So, I spend more time making sure that I got it right when I don't cue.


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Nemesis44
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quote:
Originally posted by Rick Mage
If you have both channel on, you can listen to both tunes at the same time.....You can then use the gains to control the volume of what you hear. Like how loud of the tune, that you are coming with, you wanna hear. I usally just use the mids or treble gain. That's if the mixer will allow you to listen to both channels at the same time. I have never known of a mixer, with gain controls, that will not let you listen to both channels at the same time.

If they got one...what kind of a piece of shit is that mixer??? And what kind of shitty club would have one?? They do want the DJs, who cue mix, to spin well don't they??? Or do they just get their rocks off laughing at them if they can't cue on that mixer, while club goers leave their club?? You would think they can afford a decent mixer....

However, I am a veteran DJ. I can DJ without using the cue if need be. I always practice both ways. I just takes me a little longer to mix. I can get a beat matched, while cue mixing in 20 to 30 seconds at the most. Sometimes within 5 to 10 seconds. The other way, takes me about two minutes..at the most..or less. I can get the beat match pretty close within 30 seconds. I'm just not sure...So, I spend more time making sure that I got it right when I don't cue.


So if I get this straight, what you do is listen to both channels in both ears, and adjust the gain a little to make sure you can hear the incoming track?
That's quite normal for a lot of DJs. It's actually a very precise way of doing it.

Back when I started doing it, you had to match of the beat coming from the dance floor. Most mixers didn't allow you to match in the phones and monitors where not the clubs top priority. That teatches you how to beatmatch in all sorts of conditions.

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