This stuff is right up my alley so I REALLY loved these. There's also a part 3 but I can't seem to find it

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH This stuff is right up my alley so I REALLY loved these. There's also a part 3 but I can't seem to find it

I have them all

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Good stuff! Thanks for sharing. I listened to this while updating a spreadsheet at work. Maybe that was part of the simulation.

The two things that jumped out at me in the doc.


1) "It would be no big deal not having free will because you wouldn't notice any difference" (that's a vile string of logic to me)

2) Their logic for not follow through their concept of reality is weak to the point of being laughable. It's like saying, "A car was designed, but trying to understand anything about the designers is impossible", when they should be saying, "A car was designed, what do the characteristics of a car reveal about the designers?"

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Originally posted by everett Either way, you have to believe something came from nothing whether you believe in God or not.

No you don't

Wow, that was like a major lightbulb going off in my head! It might sound daft but from an early age studying physics I always wondered what governed these specific figures and did consider the existence of other universes with different governing forces. It was pretty amazing hearing these guys speculating that as a possibility.

The music and photography was pretty superb too. Channel 4 has a knack of doing these kinds of things and making them great and thought provoking viewing.

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Originally posted by Brizzo "It's all gone Pete Tong" is actually a phrase in Europe, England I believe. Pretty sure that's where Pete Tong got his DJ name from as well.

The infamous Rojam ID. 14 years, 9 months and counting...

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Originally posted by idoru They talked so much about our universe having to have been so finely-tuned for us to exist. Wouldn't that also be necessary for whatever universe the entity that created us is in? In this theory, how is that entitys existence explained? (If they explained it, I drifted off for a couple of five minute periods during it, took a nap afterwards and am now here and need to leave for work, so... )

It's turtles all the way down.

Amazing video. They mentioned that if you mapped out every function of every nerve cell in your brain, you could transfer your "exsistence" to another hardware medium. You could use silicone based electronic hardware instead of carbon based biological electro-chemical hardware that living things use today. I myself thought of this idea some time ago. When i saw the mmention it, i was like, shit, i thought of this already. Great program. They should have it on Discovery channel more often.

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Originally posted by antronx Amazing video. They mentioned that if you mapped out every function of every nerve cell in your brain, you could transfer your "exsistence" to another hardware medium. You could use silicone based electronic hardware instead of carbon based biological electro-chemical hardware that living things use today. I myself thought of this idea some time ago. When i saw the mmention it, i was like, shit, i thought of this already. Great program. They should have it on Discovery channel more often.

I remember when Christoper Young introduced this idea to me.

It is also a major theme in Sci fi in the 80s and 90s. I'd suggest you check out Robert J. Sawyer's The Terminal Experiment as a starting point.

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Also, i liked the way they explained the theory of parallel universes. That there could be more universes out there with slightly different laws of physics. I remember i wrote an essay in my physics class back in high school about our universe being a computer simulation. And here they talk about it in this video.. Great stuff!

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Originally posted by antronx Also, i liked the way they explained the theory of parallel universes. That there could be more universes out there with slightly different laws of physics. I remember i wrote an essay in my physics class back in high school about our universe being a computer simulation. And here they talk about it in this video.. Great stuff!

I think the biggest problem with the "computer simulation" angle is that it is extremely limited in scope. I think it's value is greater as a symbolic model that allows the human mind to manipulate the concept in our minds rather than as any kind of literal representation of reality.

Sort of like explaining the concept of tv to someone in the 1500s. Saying, "it's like having a miniature theatre inside a box" as opposed to tv literally being a miniature theatre in a box.



007 FTW!

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