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Originally posted by Ryan0751 I don't think the upfaders on the Xone's are bad at all! I had (still have actually) the 92 rotary, just got the 3D. Would've preferred the rotaries, but really the upfaders are pretty damn nice. They seem to be good enough for PVD and Digweed, so we shouldn't be complaining

It's only the faders on the 92 that are shit, and I call them so solely because of how fucking loose they are. Honestly, they feel incredibly cheap compared to the rest of the mixer.

A&H should have used the same faders they did on the 62 on the 92.

And you should know by now that the "they're good enough for (big dj name here)" argument is a load of bollocks - look how many of those ******s still use the MDRV700's

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Haha, I have MDRV-700's... mine haven't snapped in half yet, but I'm waiting!

The fader stiffness thing is preference though. They are most certainly NOT cheap faders. Never touched a 62 though... so can't comment.

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Originally posted by RJT It's only the faders on the 92 that are shit, and I call them so solely because of how fucking loose they are. Honestly, they feel incredibly cheap compared to the rest of the mixer. A&H should have used the same faders they did on the 62 on the 92. And you should know by now that the "they're good enough for (big dj name here)" argument is a load of bollocks - look how many of those ******s still use the MDRV700's

Of the three I prefer the DJM800 only because of the comfort level and ease of use. Excellent EQ's and effects that if used right are magical. Ive tried the A&H, and the 4 eqs part...... thats just silly. And rotary is available on both those mixers (right?) so there really is no comparison for me. You can also add better looking as a plus for Pio!

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Originally posted by Alex Barretta Of the three I prefer the DJM800 only because of the comfort level and ease of use. Excellent EQ's and effects that if used right are magical. Ive tried the A&H, and the 4 eqs part...... thats just silly. And rotary is available on both those mixers (right?) so there really is no comparison for me. You can also add better looking as a plus for Pio!

4 eq's isn't silly when you get used to them

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Originally posted by agentdansmith 4 eq's isn't silly when you get used to them

Yep. My transitions are 20x more smoother with 4 eqs.

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

Uhh, they shouldn't be.

EQ's aren't even required to mix perfectly, pick the right tracks and learn level control.

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Originally posted by EvilTree Yep. My transitions are 20x more smoother with 4 eqs.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Uhh, they shouldn't be. EQ's aren't even required to mix perfectly, pick the right tracks and learn level control.

I suck, obvious.

So much that I need 4 eqs to feel like I'm a superstar DJ

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

Sooner or later mixers are going to be like those razors. First with 3 EQs, then 4, 5, 6..... and so on.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 You aren't biased at all with that avatar Hehe, I like the Xone's too. The build quality and solidness just isn't the same on the Pio's, though the 800/1000 is much better than their previous mixers.

I disagree, I'd even much rather play on a DJM-600 than an 800. The EQ curves on the 800 are horrible to me, and I hate the ridiculously bass-heavy sound it has. Even with sony 7506 the bass in the cans is just ridiculous. The effects are nice and the faders are smooth, but the filter is nothing like the xone's.

The 92 Rotary has to be one of the nicest mixers I've ever played on, though I heard the Rane is comparable if not even smoother.

I just love the EQing on the 92, and the cue sound setup is very nicely done too.

I was just referring to the build quality actually...

I'm gonna miss the rotaries of my 92... maybe I should just keep it

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Originally posted by Clovis I disagree, I'd even much rather play on a DJM-600 than an 800. The EQ curves on the 800 are horrible to me, and I hate the ridiculously bass-heavy sound it has. Even with sony 7506 the bass in the cans is just ridiculous. The effects are nice and the faders are smooth, but the filter is nothing like the xone's. The 92 Rotary has to be one of the nicest mixers I've ever played on, though I heard the Rane is comparable if not even smoother. I just love the EQing on the 92, and the cue sound setup is very nicely done too.

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Originally posted by Clovis I disagree, I'd even much rather play on a DJM-600 than an 800. The EQ curves on the 800 are horrible to me, and I hate the ridiculously bass-heavy sound it has. Even with sony 7506 the bass in the cans is just ridiculous. The effects are nice and the faders are smooth, but the filter is nothing like the xone's. The 92 Rotary has to be one of the nicest mixers I've ever played on, though I heard the Rane is comparable if not even smoother. I just love the EQing on the 92, and the cue sound setup is very nicely done too.

I really, really want to get a chance to play on a rotary 92.

And Rane mixers are definitely comparable - I'd say even better in build quality than Xones.

I've played on an empath, rotary, empath rotary, and the t1-SSL (or whatever the one with Serato built in is), and all of them felt like absolute fucking tanks.

Best feeling mixers I've ever played on, for sure.

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Originally posted by RJT I really, really want to get a chance to play on a rotary 92. And Rane mixers are definitely comparable - I'd say even better in build quality than Xones. I've played on an empath, rotary, empath rotary, and the t1-SSL (or whatever the one with Serato built in is), and all of them felt like absolute fucking tanks. Best feeling mixers I've ever played on, for sure.

The best set I ever heard Lawler play was @ Avalon on an MP2016, his EQing and beatmatching that night were some of the finest I've ever heard by someone using 3 CDJs and an EFX unit.