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wotyzoid
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Registered: Apr 2007
Location: New Jersey

I agree with clovis. I've never see that many booths in my life or attended a huge club party but I would guess that a dj that can see the whole floor and isn't on the spotlight so much would do his job a lot better.


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by nefardec
maybe for someone like digweed going to a new club for the first time, but it's cool for a residency at a small club with a proper scene.



I guess so, but I like to be able to see as many people's reactions as possible.


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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I guess so, but I like to be able to see as many people's reactions as possible.


I'm with Clovis.
Sorry but you have to be able to see people, and also the Booth in the pictures isn't on the Floor, it is actually raised, either that or they happen to be the worlds tallest DJs.

A Booth doesn't have to be 60 feet in the air. In theory the logic behing the height of the booth should be dictated by the size of the venue. I know for a fact that many people want to see the DJ. A charismatic DJ with good skills can blow the roof of a place, more so than any technical genius.

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nefardec
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Registered: Oct 2004
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@nem,

you're of course correct about the charisma and what not, but i am questioning whether the scene is too much about charisma and less about dynamic mixing. some deejays i have seen live like theo parrish are relatively sedate within the booth, but the things they are doing to the music are more dramatic and engaging than most.

sure, charisma can sell tickets and drinks on one night, but does it do anything good for dance music in the bigger picture. it's this commercial/instant gratification mindset that hinders progress, i think, and keeps the blows falling on the dead horse

i realize that i am a bit idealistic


i wasn't saying that every club should have a sunken booth - i was only using it as a real-life example to illustrate my point that you don't necessarily need to see the dj in order to dance at a club. i think people need to be themselves and be individuals without this dj father figure nonsense

i think clovis is right though about the dj needing to see the crowd however. in my personal experience interacting with the crowd doesn't mean jesus poses and what not, but just being able to see your handiwork and feel connected to the dancers

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spdandpwr
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Living in Connecticut, Partying in New York

there are a myriad of factors involved in getting crowds hyped up and what not....the dj booth location to me seems paramount because the dj is a performer and is just like any other artist at that....so why would you claim that he not be the center of attraction charismatic type?

last time i checked, most good dj's are producers too. therefore, seeing the connection between your music and the crowd can most certainly contribute to the development of the scene.

i know my argument is somewhat broken, however i do think that some of you are forgetting the role of dj's. The dj is actually the liason between the artist and the people. almost all people wouldn't know about music less it was played by some sort of dj whether radio dj or an a"real" dj/producer. the dj is that bridge...


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spdandpwr
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there are a myriad of factors involved in getting crowds hyped up and what not....the dj booth location to me seems paramount because the dj is a performer and is just like any other artist at that....so why would you claim that he not be the center of attraction charismatic type?

last time i checked, most good dj's are producers too. therefore, seeing the connection between your music and the crowd can most certainly contribute to the development of the scene.

i know my argument is somewhat broken, however i do think that some of you are forgetting the role of dj's. The dj is actually the liason between the artist and the people. almost all people wouldn't know about music less it was played by some sort of dj whether radio dj or an a"real" dj/producer.


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nefardec
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look this is my point:

this is not charisma, this is wrong


this is charisma





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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec





That's Mili Sefic there with Danny, one of the best fucking house DJ's in all of Chicago

Also seen here:



I absolutely love getting to play alongside that fellow


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Akazi
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Circus

whether you like it or not, avb has charisma too.

if someone manages to get such huge support and fan base then he is doing something right.

i believe that other guys you posted(richie,sven,howl...) they are charismatic too, but think about this. the term underground is a packaging too. it's not all pink and fluffy and saint. they are presenting the product to you (the consumer) differently, knowing how you think,what your believes and viewes are on music,what u like, what u don't like. knowing all this they approach you with the right words, media.... They know which is the most efficient way to present you their product, so that you buy it.

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Zild
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156

Yeah AVB is great at crying on stage to his own music. It makes me cry too.


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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

AVB does have Charisma... PVD might as well DJ in a hole in the ground though.

@Nef
I understand what you mean though. I just think that maybe at a club isn't the right forum to educate DJs. There are better forums. I think that the clips on youtube with Zabiela have done far more for the development of CDJing than seeing him do it live. Gives people a chance to study it and absorb.

Although what would be cool is DJs playing head to head in a Gladiator pit style arena. Probably more suited to Turntablists though.

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nefardec
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rh, villalobos, and those guys are equally guilty of holding concert like shows

i think the only difference is more debauchery at their events

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