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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch He still should have served a sentence for it.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 why isn't it the same though?

because dogs aren't humans.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous because dogs aren't humans.

and that makes it any less disgusting and cruel?

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 and that makes it any less disgusting and cruel?

yes. key word is 'less.' they're both disgusting and cruel, but it's not equal.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous yes. key word is 'less.' they're both disgusting and cruel, but it's not equal.

you can't win with PETA people...

which is funny, cause animal shelters kill dogs everyday... but you can't put a human to sleep(unless you're Dr. Kevorkasidfjaisfasdfn)...

but yeah, they're equal.....

lets eat more meat while we're at it!!! lol...

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Originally posted by King Ecnal lets eat more meat while we're at it!!! lol...

save a cow, eat a vegetarian.

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Originally posted by inconspicuous yes. key word is 'less.' they're both disgusting and cruel, but it's not equal.

it's not very far off from doing that to a human if you ask me. I've always been a pet owner so this disgusts me to the highest degree. Not that you've stated in any way, but people who are defending Vick based on the fact that they're "just dogs and not humans" are seriously fucking retarded.

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I'm not saying it's ok, "'cuz they're 'just dogs," but equating murder & the killing of animals is pretty absurd. They make great pets, and they're lovely creatures, but there are people who literally think that a human life is no more valuable than that of a dog. There are quite a few crimes I would put above dogfighting, animal cruelty, or even killing dogs on the 'morally reprehensible' greatest hits chart, and none of them has anything to do with anything or anyone but humans.

I don't think anyone is saying, "they're just dogs, so what"

its like Beethoven, yes that stupid friggen movie, when the little girl thought her dad gave Beethoven up to the shelter, and she comes in and says..."dog killer..."

yeah wow, that was lame, but he didn't get tried for murder or anything, just not the same is all...

but I understand the animal nuts who think its the same, they're just wrong is all...

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the ending is the best part

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Originally posted by Q5echo the ending is the best part

i think it's true. michael vick does not read the playbook. i am sure jim mora and his crew drew up some competant offensive plays, but it seems vick kept screwing it up by overthrowing someone or going out the pocket too early.

just my opinion ... we could blame his wide receivers, but alge crumpler is one really good tight end in my opinion. i saw him once in the dome against the saints a couple of years back, and that big guy can run. if vick actually knew how to throw to him, we could be naming him along with gates and gonzlaez has one of the best tight ends right now. if harrington plays his cards right this year, and uses crumpler's talents to the fullest, i place him as 3rd best over winslow. currently, it's gates-gonzalez-winslow-crumpler.

i would name jeremy shockey in the list, but because of last year's performances, i place him 5th below crumpler and winslow. i would place todd heap, jason witten, l.j. smith in my miscellaneous group ready to hit top 5, and my up and comer is greg olsen from chicago.

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