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Originally posted by theognis1002 Armin Van Buuren on the otherhand.... wat a fake puppet dj... everybreakdown... and i mean everybreakdown (his music has a shitload of em too...) he either had his hands in the air ... took his headphones off and put em up in the air... or was clapping his hands for 4 hours straight every breakdown... always smiling

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I edit a lot of my tracks. Sometimes I shorten out the intros, outros, and I definetely shorten out/get rid of the breakdowns. Other times I get rid of the stuff I don't like on the track. The crowd that I play for will leave the dancefloor if the track has a huge breakdown.

Sometimes when I edit my intros, I leave them between 30 seconds to a minute long so I can do quick mixes. That's one reason why sometimes I like to add intros to Radio Edits, because they're straight to the point.

I use either Cubase, Ableton, or Sound Studio for editing my tracks.

I edit tracks too. But I am wary of taking out breakdowns from tracks.

A lot of my sets are quite driving and lead up to breakdowns, but I prefer to pick tracks that do the job and I leave the editing side of things to enhance the creative rather than alter a tracks over all feel.

Chances are that if you are playing a track that clears the dance floor because of a breakdown you are actually playing it at the wrong time or playing the wrong track to the crowd.

It is also possible to mix in such a way that you avoid too many breakdowns.

Chances are though that if you play a track that people like and they don't hear the breakdown you could actually disapoint them and they will leave the dancefloor anyway. Start f*cking too much with tracks and it can have an equally negative effect.

Shouldn't need to edit breakdowns out of tracks too much, just be clever about how you play it and what you play. There are plenty of good driving tracks out there.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Shouldn't need to edit breakdowns out of tracks too much, just be clever about how you play it and what you play. There are plenty of good driving tracks out there.

+1 DING!

All you've got to do is get your timing right so you have another track coming in on the breakdown. Find the right buildup that matches both style and length, and you can use the buildup of another track through the breakdown of the first track, and have the buildup finish right into the next phase of the original track. Then pull off the "center" track, mix in the next one, and repeat. Or just go right into the next track, which is usually what I do when mixing the faster harder stuff. In some cases some overlap works great too, just depends on the flow of the tracks and the feel you're going for.

This can be really fun on 3 decks, if you can keep up, the art of 3 decks is certainly something I've yet to master.

It's nothing magical or new; been done for years before everyone went to Ableton and CDJs.

My personal favorite would be dropping in the buildup of a breaks track into a trance breakdown, love the combo of broken beats, fat chunky breaks basslines and melodic trance breakdown synths, vocals and/or fx. Not the easiest thing to pull off but sounds dope if you do it right.

My format of choice is vinyl so I pretty much had to learned how to phrase my tracks so that I can simply mix over the breakdown and use the buildup as an introduction to the next track.

Check my new set as a reference:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...0&forumid=26&s=