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HaeD
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Registered: Jun 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Semirk
Theres nothing really that mindblowing out there anymore i've found, not to me anyway. A lot of good tracks but nothing that stands out. I'm finding more and more my collection is one-dimensional but brancing out into other EDM genres is not getting me anywhere in terms of uniqueness either.


I believe it's not because EDM is one-dimensional, whatever genre you would be into would end up feeling one-dimensional.

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Project-K
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Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Laval, Quebec

I know what you're saying. I used to buy stuff on beatport thinking "this song is so kickass I'm never gonna get bored of it", and yet I find myself routinely deleting mp3s from my music folder because I just can't find anything to enjoy in them anymore. I think I must've spent at least a thousand bucks on music I ended up getting rid of after a year or two because I was extremely bored with it all. My biggest fear is that the music I'm enjoying today will suffer the same fate in a few years - or hopefully I've reached a peak in jadedness.


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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

this is the problem with materialism. you get everything and you still get bored.
reminds me of that scene in Dawn of the dead when the few survivors barricade themselves in that huge abandoned shopping mall. In the beginning they are all happy and run around to take clothes, jewels, food etc. But all jewels looses its value if you don't have anyone to show them to. I guess it's almost the same with music somehow. It's cool in the beginning when you are totally new to it and you have a burning desire to find out more.
oh im tired. good night.


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bubbleguuum
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When buying music, you should really ask yourself: will I like this stuff in 5, 10 or 20 years. I'm doing it all the time. You'll spend less money and avoid some mistakes. It takes some training to recognize the stuff that will last a bit longer than this ultra-cool sounding and immediately rewarding tune that you'll be bored of in two weeks.
Try to not stick too much to trends, formulas. Explore all EDM styles. When you're bored with EDM listen to something else for a while and get back to it later.

It still very rewarding to find the true gems because they are hidden deep into a huge pile a crap. And it requires quite a bit of effort.

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AustralianGQ
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ive been listening to trance for almost 5 years now and i still enjoy it just as much now as i did then, its different then 5 years ago, but i still like it.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Another big part of this, I think, is that the more you know about what has already been done in your favorite genre(s), the more you tend to dismiss new stuff as "cliched" or just "uninteresting" if it reuses elements from older tracks. As your knowledge expands further, the realm of stuff that can be thrown in the "cliched" bin grows and grows. When you're really new to EDM, you have the sense of every song and synth sound being "new" and unlike anything you've heard before.

...even if the tracks in question are just using sounds and arrangements that have already been done to death.

And now that everybody has easy, cheap access to all sorts of genres, people can experience this sensation of "already heard this before" more and more often.

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Domesticated
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It's hard not to become jaded after you have been around for a while.

Like nefardec said, you can sometimes think "damn, if I was playing, I'd be so much better than this".

Then again, I saw Pappa play a few weeks ago and he blew my mind. Completely restored my faith in club nights and DJs!

Can someone give me a concise definition of "PLUR"? It's an acronym of some sort, right?


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MrJiveBoJingles
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"PLUR" stands for:

Peace
Love
Unity
Respect

It was part of rave culture in the early '90s.

I think that Montana was using it in a more general sense to refer to people who are new to EDM and are kind of idealistic and naively enthusiastic about the music they've just discovered.

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Domesticated
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
"PLUR" stands for:

Peace
Love
Unity
Respect

It was part of rave culture in the early '90s.


Thanks, yeah, I got that impression.

No, I don’t think you can return to PLUR, not after you start realising:

a) how much drugs rule the club scene, rather than the music
b) how much shit music gets played as a result.

That said, if a new club night opens up, run by the right people, with good intentions, it can be pretty exciting for a few months!


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Floorfiller
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i just try to think of it like debating religion these days.

i'm trying to spend less time whining and more time enjoying because i'd rather just do the later.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by Beat Blog
Thanks, yeah, I got that impression.

No, I don’t think you can return to PLUR, not after you start realising:

a) how much drugs rule the club scene, rather than the music

I don't think that the drugs and music are separated so easily. The drugs have been around since the beginning, used by both artists and listeners, and they'll probably always be around. I don't really have a problem with people using drugs if it enhances their experience of the music or party in some positive way.

I think that much more than drugs, the thing that tends to corrupt a scene the most is just money. The more money is involved, the more likely you are to have people hanging around who don't give a shit about anything other than money. Club owners, promoters, etc. out to get the act that will draw the biggest amount of cash: nothing more and nothing less. This is one reason I think that being entirely "club-centric" is a bad thing for EDM, unless you have some really unusual club owners who actually care about something more than how much they can earn with cover charges and alcohol sales.

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nefardec
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When buying music, you should really ask yourself: will I like this stuff in 5, 10 or 20 years.


I think like that for the most part, but when you DJ you also have to ask yourself 'will this make people take their clothes off this weekend?'

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