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Lilith
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: Maximum Security twilight home for cats

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
The only thing Im concerned about is downshifting. Its not as intuitive to me, Im not sure I get it.

Hmm, I suppose it's not if you've only ever driven automatics. Essentially what you're using is the engines compression to slow you down in addition to the brakes, whilst at the same time keeping your vehicles revs up at a constant which will stop the engine from stalling and use it's range of power efficiently. An automatic selects gears to do this normally, however I've driven a lot of the newer automatics and they still don't quite 'get it', they're close but still never as efficient it seems on using fuel.
It'll come to you, just find a quiet stretch of road where you can practice going up and down through the gears from start-speed limit-dead stop and repeat until you get the feel of it.
Then later you can work out cornering and so on somewhere else.

Also, the type of engine really determines where you should shift, if it's something big and ugly like my old 5.7L V8 then it would literally be able to idle off the line using it's torque alone to get moving and very gentle use of the accelerator. Unlike the nasty 2L turbo 4cylinder I've got now, it needs about 1300-1500rpm before I start easing out the clutch simply because the engine doesn't have that big flywheel's inertia and torque.

They're far more fun to drive though Ang, you will enjoy it after awhile and don't forget to relax

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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal

the way i learned to get it down and got better at it, rev to 3k and slowly let the clutch out. it helps you get the feel of the car without the worry of stalling all the time or the car lurching. yeah it burns up the clutch a bit more but whatever. its a good way to learn.

downshifting....ehh forget it till you really get down shifting in general. it will come easier if you wait.

what sort of car is it that your learning on?

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Ang ' ela_ie
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Registered: Jul 2004
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But I wasn't sure, which means the other person may have not been sure, which would have resulted in the engine smelling like fried, greasy... engine?


Im pretty car smart. I know "how" to drive stick. Just havent done it before.


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Ang ' ela_ie
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They're far more fun to drive though Ang, you will enjoy it after awhile and don't forget to relax


Its a Saab 93 (which is a very pretty car in itself!).

Thanks for your advice!


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As long as you're easy on the clutch, like slower than you think. Let your foot out. That car will slowly pull itself and a light feather to the gas will be all it needs.


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Ang ' ela_ie
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As long as you're easy on the clutch, like slower than you think. Let your foot out. That car will slowly pull itself and a light feather to the gas will be all it needs.


Yeah honestly I think Im just going to sit for a while and play around with the friction point until I think I can step on the gas comfortably. I REALLY dont want to fuck up his car. He might stop making out with me.

Although Im more afraid of throwing a rod... which is why Im scared of downshifting...


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L.E.N.
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Dont think too much about it. Once you learn its easy. Yes will stall. Throwing a rod would mean a foot full of gas pedal. Just dont do it. Save the downshifting for later. Brake pads are cheaper than a clutch so just brake like an auto at the start.


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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Yeah honestly I think Im just going to sit for a while and play around with the friction point until I think I can step on the gas comfortably. I REALLY dont want to fuck up his car. He might stop making out with me.

Although Im more afraid of throwing a rod... which is why Im scared of downshifting...
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your worrying too much. you aint gonna throw a rod.

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Lilith
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Registered: Nov 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
your worrying too much. you aint gonna throw a rod.

We'll save engine/drive line destruction for when we teach Ang how to flat shift through the rev range so she doesn't burn out the clutch, keep the power on hard and clutch-kick into corners to get the back end sideways properly.
For now, you stay under 4000rpm and you'll be fine

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quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Yeah honestly I think Im just going to sit for a while and play around with the friction point until I think I can step on the gas comfortably. I REALLY dont want to fuck up his car. He might stop making out with me.

Although Im more afraid of throwing a rod... which is why Im scared of downshifting...


lol, you said rod.

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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
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Originally posted by Lilith
We'll save engine/drive line destruction for when we teach Ang how to flat shift through the rev range so she doesn't burn out the clutch, keep the power on hard and clutch-kick into corners to get the back end sideways properly.
For now, you stay under 4000rpm and you'll be fine

haha thats SOO much fun. god i miss my 240!

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