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Originally posted by Chris Allen Really? Well how about the $300 audio unit I bought, from Mackie: not exactly a small-time audio manufacturer. Plug in, doesn't work at all. Call support: no Vista drivers for another 3 months. Back to XP, worked fine. Wireless driver, same problem. NIC card, same problem. External Hard Drives, same problem. I'm a Microsoft beta tester and I've had nothing but problems with this OS, so I think I'm validated enough to say that by my personal experiences that I would not recommend it.

yeah... so its Microsoft's problem that Mackie doesn't have drivers ready for their own products?

You should know better, Vista has been in testing for a full 18 months, which should be plenty of time for any half assed company to write drivers.

Your memory seems selective because you are praising XP. Guess what, a shitload of products didn't have drivers ready for XP's launch.

Got a toshiba laptop a few weeks ago with vista loaded, with all the racket surrounding it I was very suspicious and was considering removing it for XP. Guess what, everything runs perfect, nothing unusual about it some crashes here and there (similar to XP), very fast and all the software I am using are working great!

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I'm a huge storage guy, considering my giant collection of STUFF, so....

I just saw this article on Tom's which showed how fast the new WD drives were. I have about 1.5TB of seagate HDDs, but if I could get Raptor speeds in regular drives, fuck I might just go for it. Yes, I know they only come with a 3 year warranty, compared to Seagate's 5 years. I would rather run 0+1, as 5 just seems fishy, but I know its mathimatically sound. As for RAID, look at Tom's Raid Scaling charts. God I live Tom's.

As for your 1066MHZ ram, what is the FSB on the CPU? The price premium on DDR3 is so high right now, you have to make sure you are getting what you paid for. Read a few different reviews to make sure your MB does not have an 'memory leaks (basically does it scale properly). The Asus P5M is a good line, but check it out to be sure, since you are paying so much.

Otherwise, if you need to bounce any more ideas back and forth, get me on MSN. I need to discuss this stuff again, because nobody around me seems willing anymore.

pirate your OS and get a copy of xp pro, which works just fine.

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Originally posted by Invasionmix Hey I work at Canada Computers

WTF! That's amazing dude!

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Originally posted by Chris Allen It should have been fine when it was released, that was the whole point. This operating system will eventually be fine, but it's been a massive embarrassment to Microsoft in the process of release.

Everything new always has bugs and problems with it, look at the first year for any generation of cars. But I agree with you, the RTM version and even at first Vista wasn't what Microsoft hyped it up to be, but now I see customers come in telling me that it's not that bad.

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL WTF! That's amazing dude!

Is that suppose to be sarcasm?

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Also, Invasionmix: If I were to walk into a CC store, would they let me pick and choose to find a G0 stepping Q6600, or would they just hand me one and I take my chances?

Depends on the sales person and the location you go to. Some sales people are just pretty much annoyed by any customer, and some would gladly help you look for the right stepping. I know in the Mississauga location none of us would mind.

here's the rule for Microsoft OS's ok... they aren't "ready" until SP2.

learn it.

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Originally posted by Orko I'm a huge storage guy, considering my giant collection of STUFF, so.... I just saw this article on Tom's which showed how fast the new WD drives were. I have about 1.5TB of seagate HDDs, but if I could get Raptor speeds in regular drives, fuck I might just go for it. Yes, I know they only come with a 3 year warranty, compared to Seagate's 5 years. I would rather run 0+1, as 5 just seems fishy, but I know its mathimatically sound. As for RAID, look at Tom's Raid Scaling charts. God I live Tom's.

Surprising about the relative access times, but like I mentioned before, if write/read performance is an issue, then it still might make sense to put in a RAID. Not sure if that's as huge a deal with Autocad or not, but I know on any server side file transactions at my work, it's usually the read/writes that kill us in the end, not the actual access.

Just wondering, is 128MB of video RAM enough for CAD? The last CAD program I used was Anvil for Win'98 so im not really sure how much they eat up now.

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Originally posted by Invasionmix Is that suppose to be sarcasm?

Not at all, I'm always at Canada Computers. I'm normaly at the Kennedy location and sometimes at the Cummer location.

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Originally posted by Invasionmix Everything new always has bugs and problems with it, look at the first year for any generation of cars. But I agree with you, the RTM version and even at first Vista wasn't what Microsoft hyped it up to be, but now I see customers come in telling me that it's not that bad.

Lol, do you see anything wrong with Microsoft expecting their customers to pay a few hundred dollars for software that the customers review as "not that bad"? Personally, with the pricetag it carries, and the years it's been in development, I'd expect the reviews to be "wowowowow this is the best thing since sliced bread!!111" and not "ehhh it's not that bad."

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Lol, do you see anything wrong with Microsoft expecting their customers to pay a few hundred dollars for software that the customers review as "not that bad"? Personally, with the pricetag it carries, and the years it's been in development, I'd expect the reviews to be "wowowowow this is the best thing since sliced bread!!111" and not "ehhh it's not that bad."

I'll use my analogy again, cars cost a lot more there's a longer history in development versus computers, yet there's always problems with it. Look at Mercedes and Audi cars, there's always electrical problems with it. Mercedes and Audi releases cars and when the car is messed up they repair it, log it, and make sure to fix it in the next year. Microsoft releases their products in a similar way.