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Originally posted by shaolin_Z I don't know man, you tell me. You're the one who has it splattered all over his face and mouth.

really? is that what you see all the time, cum splattered man mouth? intresting.

did you get along with your Dad when you were growing up?

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Originally posted by Q5echo really? is that what you see all the time, cum splattered man mouth? intresting. did you get along with your Dad when you were growing up?

So is Bush your dominatrix daddy now?

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z So is Bush your dominatrix daddy now?

i don't know, man. how would that make you feel?

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Originally posted by Q5echo i don't know, man. how would that make you feel?

Like Dick Cheney.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by Lilith Because it's far more entertaining and imaginative to blame someone else for life's woes instead of just dealing with the horrible reality that life is just an endless stream of work, bills, wars, debt, taxes, pain and hardship in various amounts most of the time. It'd be nice just to blame someone else. But it's usually just that simple, my highly educated self and countless re-runs of Scooby Doo during my childhood that the only real source of mysteries, monsters, aliens is actually crooked real estate developers. ...wait, aww crap.

Not to say that you're one because I obviously don't know you well enough to say one way or the other, but there are a lot of overeducated idiots in this world who know a whole lot only about very little. As ironic as it might sound, many of them are called "professionals."

Life is just an endless stream of the aforesaid obligatory discomforts simply because the status quo which states that is left unchallenged because our complacency and collective apathy keeps it that way. Nothing is ever going to change if nobody is willing or ready to fight to change it.

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"Learn, child, to catch a hint through whatever agency it may be given. 'Sermons may be preached through stones." - Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Letters from the Masters of Wisdom, first series, p. 74, letter 31

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Originally posted by Trancer-X Not to say that you're one because I obviously don't know you well enough to say one way or the other, but there are a lot of overeducated idiots in this world who know a whole lot only about very little. As ironic as it might sound, many of them are called "professionals." Life is just an endless stream of the aforesaid obligatory discomforts simply because the status quo which states that is left unchallenged because our complacency and collective apathy keeps it that way. Nothing is ever going to change if nobody is willing or ready to fight to change it.

agreed 100%

but why you place your faith in non-experts with nothing but youtube and 911.org's at their fingertips is beyond me.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN agreed 100% but why you place your faith in non-experts with nothing but youtube and 911.org's at their fingertips is beyond me.

But that's a false assumption on your part.

I've always done my own due diligence so I don't place any faith in anyone except for myself

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Originally posted by Trancer-X But that's a false assumption on your part. I've always done my own due diligence so I don't place any faith in anyone except for myself

that's all well and good too, but you're not a civil engineer, so at some level you need to rely on the findings of other people. and in this you seem to have an irrational bias towards those who do not have the qualifications or expertise to be making such analyses.

using your own "common sense" is an easy trap to fall into. there are plenty of things that defy common sense that are still fact.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN that's all well and good too, but you're not a civil engineer, so at some level you need to rely on the findings of other people. and in this you seem to have an irrational bias towards those who do not have the qualifications or expertise to be making such analyses. using your own "common sense" is an easy trap to fall into. there are plenty of things that defy common sense that are still fact.

lol

I don't need an engineering degree to see that the events of 9/11 had been pre-planned by rogue elements within my own government, that the official story is riddled with so many omissions, distortions and holes so big that you can see daylight shining through them, that there were many other intelligence experts and agencies who warned about the impending attack who were shut up or given gag orders, etc.

In reality, this whole thing has very little to do with the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, any alleged preplanted explosives or even the very laws of physics which my government (through it's cover-up report) claims were violated that day.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I don't need an engineering degree to see that the events of 9/11 had been pre-planned by rogue elements within my own government, that the official story is riddled with so many omissions, distortions and holes so big that you can see daylight shining through them, that there were many other intelligence experts and agencies who warned about the impending attack who were shut up or given gag orders, etc.

and yet, that "riddled story" hasn't been replaced by you (or others) into anything that resembles a coherent analysis. the so-called "holes" (most of which that ive seen arent holes at all) do not equate with conspiracy unless you can show me that they do.

after all these years, ive only ever seen "omg government conspiracy!", yet have been unable to locate a single thesis that joins all the dots the CTs have drawn. not one. mostly because when you try and piece the nonsense together it becomes even more nonsensical.

but you DO need a degree if youre going to arbitrarily disagree with the world's engineering consensus about how the towers collapsed.

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In reality, this whole thing has very little to do with the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, any alleged preplanted explosives or even the very laws of physics which my government (through it's cover-up report) claims were violated that day.

maybe not, but im not debating anything else. CTs have made such a big deal of the explosives, and this is what i take issue with. because there isnt a single fact supporting that particular thesis. i dont care about all the other red-herrings the CTs generate; ive seen enough of them disproved or falsified to doubt the entire "movement".

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN and yet, that "riddled story" hasn't been replaced by you (or others) into anything that resembles a coherent analysis. the so-called "holes" (most of which that ive seen arent holes at all) do not equate with conspiracy unless you can show me that they do. after all these years, ive only ever seen "omg government conspiracy!", yet have been unable to locate a single thesis that joins all the dots the CTs have drawn. not one. mostly because when you try and piece the nonsense together it becomes even more nonsensical. but you DO need a degree if youre going to arbitrarily disagree with the world's engineering consensus about how the towers collapsed. maybe not, but im not debating anything else. CTs have made such a big deal of the explosives, and this is what i take issue with. because there isnt a single fact supporting that particular thesis. i dont care about all the other red-herrings the CTs generate; ive seen enough of them disproved or falsified to doubt the entire "movement".

It's funny but the FBI had initially reported that they believed that an explosives-laden van was what brought the towers down.

It's always interesting to see how stories changes to accommodate the facts but even more interesting to watch how in these conspiracies, the facts change to accommodate the story.

Go ahead and stick to trying to debunk the CD theory. I'm sure trying to debunk something for which they destroyed most of the evidence about is going to be a lot easier of a task than trying to refute all of the eyewitnesses who saw and heard much to the contrary.

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"Learn, child, to catch a hint through whatever agency it may be given. 'Sermons may be preached through stones." - Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Letters from the Masters of Wisdom, first series, p. 74, letter 31