Stop being a fool and reply to my previous post:

Police confirm that only four protesters were arrested during the summit – two men and two women.

Where did these three go? They were clearly arrested for obstructing police by attempting to cross the police line. Where are they in the arrest list? Huh? Stop being an arrogant selfish idiot ... seriously.

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Well what do yea know...

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Quebec police confirm masked protesters were cops Updated Thu. Aug. 23 2007 9:22 PM ET CTV.ca News Staff The Quebec police force admits that three masked protesters at the Montebello summit were undercover officers -- the same men accused of trying to incite violence. Quebec police released a statement in French Thursday, saying its officers posed as protesters but did not instigate violence or commit criminal acts. Police use such tactics to watch for violent demonstrators. Dave Coles, president of the Communications, Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada, has alleged the three masked men had acted as agents provocateurs. A video posted on YouTube from Monday's protests in Montebello, Que. shows Coles in a confrontation with the men. He tells them to remove their masks. One of the three men is holding a rock and Coles tells him to move because their line is meant for peaceful protesters. "These three guys are cops, everybody!" Coles can be heard shouting to the crowd as he tries to pull down their bandanas. The three men then push their way into the police line and appear to be arrested, then taken away. Police said that after viewing the clip, they were able to confirm the men were Quebec provincial police officers. Photographs taken by another protester had shown the three men lying on the ground with the soles of their boots adorned by yellow octagons. A police officer kneeling beside the men appears to have the same imprint on his boot -- likely the Vibram boots logo. Both the RCMP and Quebec police had denied using undercover officers to antagonize peaceful demonstrators. "I confirm (to) you that there is no agents provocateurs in the Surete du Quebec... It doesn't exist in the Surete du Quebec," spokesperson Const. Melanie Larouche told The Canadian Press Wednesday. RCMP Cpl. Luc Bessette said the Mounties do "not use tactics that would encourage confrontation or incite violence."

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I still question them actually going to start something though.

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Someone's in denial

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Someone's in denial

Denial? Na.
There is a difference between provoking and spying though.
Spying I can believe but that's not what everyone was going on about by calling them provocateurs.

A CTV reporter did report that rocks and vegetables(!?) were being thrown at this event so the fact that the guy picked up a rock doesn't prove anything.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Denial? Na. There is a difference between provoking and spying though. Spying I can believe but that's not what everyone was going on about by calling them provocateurs. A CTV reporter did report that rocks and vegetables(!?) were being thrown at this event so the fact that the guy picked up a rock doesn't prove anything.

The police officer picked up a random rock because he liked the colour of it. It was a very beautiful rock and he was going to add it to his evergrowing rocks collection.


I mean, we all pick up rocks at protests too often enough to just look at it and put it back. Thats the nature of the rock. And the person admiring the billion+ year old piece of nature.

CTs are we? NO. This event further puts a dent on all the deniers ... its obvious that to them its a conspiracy when a government or the people in charge say it is. If they say its not true, then it must be not true. Some people like Firestarter are very good sheep. Meeeeeehhhhh ... they tell you, you believe them.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium The police officer picked up a random rock because he liked the colour of it. It was a very beautiful rock and he was going to add it to his evergrowing rocks collection. I mean, we all pick up rocks at protests too often enough to just look at it and put it back. Thats the nature of the rock. And the person admiring the billion+ year old piece of nature. CTs are we? NO. This event further puts a dent on all the deniers ... its obvious that to them its a conspiracy when a government or the people in charge say it is. If they say its not true, then it must be not true. Some people like Firestarter are very good sheep. Meeeeeehhhhh ... they tell you, you believe them.

The fact that he picked up the rock and had ample opportunity to use it right there and didn't escapes you then huh?
BAAAAAAAAAAA.......

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http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/249429

Quebec police admit agents posed as protesters

Deny role of undercover officers was to provoke violence at summit of North American leaders

August 24, 2007
Steve Lambert
Sidhartha Banerjee
Canadian Press

MONTREAL–With the proof caught on video, Quebec provincial police were forced to admit yesterday that three undercover agents were playing the part of protesters at this week's international summit in Montebello, Que.

But the Quebec police force denied they were attempting to provoke protesters into violence. Rather, they said the three were planted in the crowd to locate any protesters who were not peacefully demonstrating. Police said the trio's cover was blown when they refused to toss any objects.

"At no time did the Quebec provincial police officers act as agents provocateurs or commit criminal acts. Also, it is not part of the policy of the police force nor is it part of its strategy to act in this manner. At all times, the officers responded to their mandate to maintain law and order," the Sûreté du Québec said in a news release last night.

The police said after viewing a video clip from YouTube.com and video shot by police officers, they were able to confirm the three were Quebec provincial police officers.

Earlier, both Quebec police and the RCMP denied any of their officers were involved.

Earlier yesterday, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day rejected opposition calls for an inquiry into the role of suspect agents at the North American leaders summit.

"If people have concerns ... there is a complaints process for the RCMP. There is also one for the Sûreté du Québec. This incident happened in Quebec, so I imagine people could also file under that complaints process."

Day's words did little to appease Dave Coles, the union leader who confronted the three men on the protest line and accused them of being cops.

"We're going to talk to our legal counsel and we'll decide (Friday) what our next action is going to be," said Coles, president of the Communications Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada.

The three officers, sporting bandannas, showed up on the front lines of a protest at the summit. One carried a large rock.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r The fact that he picked up the rock and had ample opportunity to use it right there and didn't escapes you then huh? BAAAAAAAAAAA.......

LOL, you kill me. Did you watch the clip? Did you see how many times the protesters asked them to drop their rocks, and how many times they received a middle finger or a NO for an answer? Obviously they had other intentions with the weapon. They didnt find an appropriate target yet (for the rock), and they were very nervous, in case you didnt see the clip. When they were exposed, it became too late to throw the rock, especially with the video camera shooting the whole thing ... so there you go.

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Plus no government or police force with a brain is going to blatantly admit such a savage plan because of the consequences - people like Firestarter are waiting for them to admit, and thats the only way they'll believe the intentions. While they dont realize that only an idiot would come out and admit the true intentions. They will always use the power of language and lawyers and advisors to downplay the event, or cover it up, or let someone else do the talking while keeping quiet. Or use misinformation or personal attacks campaign, using the media. Thats the history of government, corporate, and police crime.

Some people seriously have to get smarter and realize that a government will never ever admit to such horrible deeds and lies because it is a literal suicide for itself. It doesnt have to say it if there's no law or regulation telling it to do so. With the kind of power that they have, and the history has shown this to us, they've done worse things, but it seems like that only when a government admits to its involvement is the only time when they've actually done the bad deeds. Same for corporations. But in reality, they will both try hard to deny the whole thing and collude the public opinion and evidence to draw the case even and thus win.

And this for most people, like Firestarter, this is the wonder of the society. Thats how he likes the way of things. A complete disregard for the dirty little human nature. We all lie, some more often than others. And thus those in power can never be trusted. And no watch dog is going to stop that.

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If "undercover" police officers didnt have bad intentions, then why did they disguise themselves as radicals armed with weapons and prone to cause violence? Also, in the video they obviously were hostile to the crowd, which almost went into a scuffle and violence. They intentionall entered a peaceful crowd with bad intentions. They were asked to leave, and they refused continuosly, as well as they continued to ignore requests to drop the weapons. Why didnt they disguise themselves as average protesters? Seriously ... The police could have at any moment started attacking the mostly peaceful demonstrators because there three fockers (police officers) endangered the crowd, intentionally endangering it by sending rogue elements to the protest.

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Originally posted by Swamper http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/249429 Quebec police admit agents posed as protesters Deny role of undercover officers was to provoke violence at summit of North American leaders August 24, 2007 Steve Lambert Sidhartha Banerjee Canadian Press MONTREAL–With the proof caught on video, Quebec provincial police were forced to admit yesterday that three undercover agents were playing the part of protesters at this week's international summit in Montebello, Que. But the Quebec police force denied they were attempting to provoke protesters into violence. Rather, they said the three were planted in the crowd to locate any protesters who were not peacefully demonstrating. Police said the trio's cover was blown when they refused to toss any objects. "At no time did the Quebec provincial police officers act as agents provocateurs or commit criminal acts. Also, it is not part of the policy of the police force nor is it part of its strategy to act in this manner. At all times, the officers responded to their mandate to maintain law and order," the Sûreté du Québec said in a news release last night. The police said after viewing a video clip from YouTube.com and video shot by police officers, they were able to confirm the three were Quebec provincial police officers. Earlier, both Quebec police and the RCMP denied any of their officers were involved. Earlier yesterday, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day rejected opposition calls for an inquiry into the role of suspect agents at the North American leaders summit. "If people have concerns ... there is a complaints process for the RCMP. There is also one for the Sûreté du Québec. This incident happened in Quebec, so I imagine people could also file under that complaints process." Day's words did little to appease Dave Coles, the union leader who confronted the three men on the protest line and accused them of being cops. "We're going to talk to our legal counsel and we'll decide (Friday) what our next action is going to be," said Coles, president of the Communications Energy and Paperworkers Union of Canada. The three officers, sporting bandannas, showed up on the front lines of a protest at the summit. One carried a large rock. ------------ told you

So all of you who were quick to jump on the bandwagon against this being a possibility, I hope you learn an important lesson here.