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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery ...and when you've found the one you like and already worn it out? It really isn't that complicated, is it.

Indeed.

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You sound like a person that calls EDM simply 'techno'.

I've been listening to this stuff daily for about 7 years now. For awhile I thought it was pretty varied (and in some ways it is), but when you get down to the basics it's really all just boom boom music, the rest is just sugar on top. That's what I've become bored of - because the sugar on top isn't enough anymore.

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Well, I think I went through a similar phase too when I was listening to a lot of trance. I got simply sick of that sound and wanted a change. First, I started exploring other EDM genres and then moved on to practically everything. One day, I listen to post-rock, some Pink Floyd, some Nine Inch Nails, the next day, I'm browsing through new tech/deep house releases. Sometimes, I'm in a mood for some downtempo. It's this variety that prevents me from getting completely jaded.

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Originally posted by Project-K I've been listening to this stuff daily for about 7 years now. For awhile I thought it was pretty varied (and in some ways it is), but when you get down to the basics it's really all just boom boom music, the rest is just sugar on top. That's what I've become bored of - because the sugar on top isn't enough anymore.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe I have that fortune that I can't picture myself listening to anything else beside EDM. I've been listening to it for 7 years (good stuff for 4-5 years) and I'm not even remotely bored of it.

Kind of odd that people sometimes see contemporary trance as being of 'low production' quality, if anything I think the sound quality and precision it's put together, is generally of as high a standard as it's ever been.
What it is lacking though is substance and feeling having moved from it's roots as a marginal genre of underground producers who made it for fun rather than a dollar, seems to have manufactured just a whole lot more mediocre, flash in the pan trance than ever before. Hence you can sometimes get the overall impression that the entire trance genre isn't moving anywhere which is extremely frustrating when it comes to finding decent tracks.

So I do what Ian's basically described, dig up old trance classic stuff, listen to EBM, D&B, rock, Psy, Goa and old acid tracks. Heck if it gets real nasty and desperate I drag out old Euro, Chicago hardcore techno and gabba

I listened to dance music more or less exclusively for a while and got kind of bored of it, too. My advice would be just to listen to lots of stuff other than dance music. Try to listen to three or four non-EDM songs for every EDM song you listen to. Try learning about and listening to genres you thought you'd never be interested in (jazz? soul? blues? classical? I don't know your tastes, but I'd bet there's something out there), and with each one try to find things to like about it. I've found that has done a lot for the development of my musical tastes: actively trying to learn about musical forms that I'm ignorant of. It also helps create a feeling of "freshness" when I listen to EDM since within the same day / hour / week I've been listening to lots of things that sound nothing like EDM.

I'm guessing if you came to EDM straight from the "pop-rock" radio crap, you didn't do a lot of exploring with less-popular non-EDM stuff. Maybe I'm wrong on that. I just know that EDM was the first non-radio stuff I ended up liking a lot, and for a while I listened to only EDM (and really only trance and prog house at one point). That can get really stifling. So if you're burnt out you should probably explore, use some of your music-listening time on a bunch of non-EDM.

I bet you can find some genres that are worth it.

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Originally posted by Lilith Kind of odd that people sometimes see contemporary trance as being of 'low production' quality, if anything I think the sound quality and precision it's put together, is generally of as high a standard as it's ever been. What it is lacking though is substance and feeling having moved from it's roots as a marginal genre of underground producers who made it for fun rather than a dollar, seems to have manufactured just a whole lot more mediocre, flash in the pan trance than ever before. Hence you can sometimes get the overall impression that the entire trance genre isn't moving anywhere which is extremely frustrating when it comes to finding decent tracks.

Okay, maybe it's not low quality production, but it's way too generic. You've heard one, you've heard them all.
That's what bothers me about today's trance. That's why I stopped listening to it completely.

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Originally posted by Lilith So I do what Ian's basically described, dig up old trance classic stuff, listen to EBM, D&B, rock, Psy, Goa and old acid tracks. Heck if it gets real nasty and desperate I drag out old Euro, Chicago hardcore techno and gabba

I also enjoy "older" (1998-2001) trance from time to time, but you can't live in the past... So I moved on to other subgenres that are still good no matter what year they're from.

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Originally posted by Gauss I also enjoy "older" (1998-2001) trance from time to time, but you can't live in the past...

There's so much of great old music that you or me haven't heard yet... Even if people stopped making music right now, there'd still be so much to listen to for the rest of your life.

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You're not alone, I haven't been interested with the majority of todays EDM for last year or so and especially within the last 2 or 3 months. I'm guessing the reason for this is because I've been listening to it since I was 12 (I'm now 20) and have went through trance, house, garage, eurodance and techno. I couldn't get into the other subgenres and I still can't.

I've naturally moved on to jazz, acid jazz, classical, ambient, soundtrack, synth pop and alternative. The only EDM I listen to now is anything that was made from 1997-2004.

I can't see myself going back to it anytime soon or at all for that matter. They say 'never say never', but I strongly doubt it'll happen.

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I've never got bored of electronic music, because I've never got bored of music. As long as I enjoy music, I'll enjoy electronic music, because there's so many great electronic records I can't listen to all of them frequently enough to get bored of them. Over-familiarity is the only way to get bored of something, and I've never listened to one genre exhaustively.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Listen to whatever you want to listen to. If you're bored of something, don't listen to it. Listen to something you do like. If you can't find anything non-electronic you do like, broaden your mind.

"Broaden your mind." Fine, I'd love to do that. Like how?

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Originally posted by noikeee "Broaden your mind." Fine, I'd love to do that. Like how?

Why LSD of course.

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