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SuspicionVandit
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Registered: Nov 2005
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meh, if Morgan Freeman or Christian Bale were scientologists, I'd respect it a tad more.


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venomX
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
This thread is a true testament to the fact that people both fear and hate that which is unfamiliar to them.


So you are saying that there is something in scientology that somehow redeems it from all its negative aspects?


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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by venomX
So you are saying that there is something in scientology that somehow redeems it from all its negative aspects?


yeah, thats what i was thinking...


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Halcyon+On+On
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

quote:
Originally posted by venomX
So you are saying that there is something in scientology that somehow redeems it from all its negative aspects?


No, actually.

I'm saying that most people don't know shit about Scientology other than what they saw on an episode of South Park and so jump to conclusions about its tenets.

I'm not even defending Scientology, really. In my opinion, it has its good points and its blaring, blaring bad points, just like any other organization or religion. I am, however, calling out all the people who hate something without knowing a lick about it. Those who denounce religions or people without knowing anything about them or hearing them out first. These same people are often quick to conclusions and fail to realize that there really are no conclusions other than the possibility for an individual to choose to cease learning and developing their horizons.


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Frenchie
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We're all ignorant bastards that say the same shit about any religion we don't know about. It's just blashemized more so than others.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, actually.

I'm saying that most people don't know shit about Scientology other than what they saw on an episode of South Park and so jump to conclusions about its tenets.

I'm not even defending Scientology, really. In my opinion, it has its good points and its blaring, blaring bad points, just like any other organization or religion. I am, however, calling out all the people who hate something without knowing a lick about it. Those who denounce religions or people without knowing anything about them or hearing them out first. These same people are often quick to conclusions and fail to realize that there really are no conclusions other than the possibility for an individual to choose to cease learning and developing their horizons.


one doesn't need to try being gang-raped to know its no good


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Halcyon+On+On
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
could you elaborate further please?


If I am to understand Scientology correctly, it centres around healing oneself through rigorous discipline. That doesn't say much in itself, but I don't think it's too far-fetched to assume that most people in this day and age are "damaged" in one way or another. I won't make claims to know "how it's always been", but it seems to me that overexposure to media such as television, internet, government, etc... is somehow draining the individuality and the spirit out of people. It's like people are controlled by mass media and are in need of some sort of salvation, and that Scientology delivers this on an individual level. I will not profess to claim whether this actually works or not, or is in fact the end-all solution to humanity's ailments, as I am not a Scientologist, but it seems to me that this is an answer to many people and for once it does not necessarily rely on archaic scribblings of long lost desert tribes with little relevance to the modern world...instead it is derived from science fiction novels by a mediocre author 50 some-odd years ago!

It seems to me that scientology is, in essence, the anti-prescription, even though it is a prescription of thought, nevertheless. That is its blaring fault. Nevertheless, it is a leading force in denouncing the widespread prescription of psychotropic mind-control drugs on children (Ritalin, primarily) in the US and that is something I have not seen any other "religious" organization tackle. For this reason alone, I would gladly support them in their efforts to guide people to prescribing their own cures and looking inwards rather than blindly taking the prescriptions of some licensed drug pusher who has everything to gain from doping children into submission and non-thought. Is it right? Is it correct? It's so hard to pick and choose these days - sometimes you must side with the lesser of all evils.


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Lomeli
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Registered: Dec 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
No, actually.

I'm saying that most people don't know shit about Scientology other than what they saw on an episode of South Park and so jump to conclusions about its tenets.

I'm not even defending Scientology, really. In my opinion, it has its good points and its blaring, blaring bad points, just like any other organization or religion. I am, however, calling out all the people who hate something without knowing a lick about it. Those who denounce religions or people without knowing anything about them or hearing them out first. These same people are often quick to conclusions and fail to realize that there really are no conclusions other than the possibility for an individual to choose to cease learning and developing their horizons.


I know about scientology. It's a joke.

Hubbard is an author of fiction.

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Spacey Orange
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ur a fucking idiot Halcyon+On+On.


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Lomeli
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Registered: Dec 2004
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Thanks!

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Oh, nm.

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Halcyon+On+On
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Registered: Sep 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
There isn't much to fear from Scientology other than lawsuits.




The absence of any realistic or immediate fear has never ceased to frighten the weak of mind.


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Spacey Orange
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quote:
Originally posted by Lomeli
Thanks!


not u


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