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Originally posted by Magnus So if I had to choose between the E6850 or the Q6600, which one would you suggest I buy for a DAW? On a side note, anyone seen XP DAW edition and tried it? Thoughts?

Depending upon what audio program you use, it's probably safest to go with a dual core.

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Originally posted by Aesthetic What's XP DAW edition about, Magnus? I recently got a copy of tinyxp which is like a 200mb install of XP and cuts out all the unnecessary bullcrap, frees up like an additional 100 meg ram that xp used to use, and i'm pretty sure is easier on the CPU too.. I'm considering installing that when I build my next machine.

as neat as tinyxp is, you open yourself up to a lot of instability. not worth it imo!

Yeah I tried tinyxp too and it didn't have some networking shit and I couldn't get any computer I installed it on on the internet or home network >=(

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hey guys, I really wanna know, if I can use the 4 cores with live?
I mean, smth like use 1 core for some tracks with some vsts intrusments, 1 for vst effects, other for audio files, other for etc and etc...

is it possible?
also, one guy told me that my money will be better spent on a faster speed dual core, which will run better than a quad core at slower speed, cause if ableton doesnt fully support cores, it'll just run a single 2.4ghz (and the other 3 cores will be kinda useless) while the dualcore 3.0ghz would also run just 1 core, but faster, 3ghz...

any opinions?

for now, isn't it better to go for the heaviest single cores?

Like the FX60 from AMD? I know in reason at least, when i went from pentium 4 2.8 gighz to my current AMD 4000 san diego. My cpu capacity increased by 4-5 times at least.

Though i tried some VSTs and i know for example that some presets from NI Massive can take my entire cpu to 100%..freaking weird.


Anyway i'll be goign for the FX60 when i get the money. Can't be arsed to get a new pc every year.

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

Ok, had some extensive producing sessions with this baby

First of all, my system runs pretty stable (Windows XP SP2). As i sayd im running a Core 2 Duo E6850 on an Asrock ConRoe1333-D667 mainboard. 2 Gigs of 800 Mhz Patriot ram and a Leadtek grafic card with a Geforce 8400GS Chip. Paid 600 € for the whole system (HD, Tower... included).

First i was a bit unsure about the mainboard, with a pricing of circa 50 € it is far below low budget. Blessedly there havent been any disappointments till now .


To get a good relation of how strong the new cpu is i opened a project i made with Fruityloops 6 on my old Computer (Msi Mainboard, Athlon XP 2800 which is comparable to pentium 4 2400, 1 GB ram). Its about 7 minutes long and contains following plugins.

z3ta x 4
refx Vanguard x 3
Albino 3 x 1
Fruity Parametriq EQ x 11
Fruity Free Filter x 5
Fruity Delay 2 x 5
Steinberg Bitcrusher x 3
mg TriggerGate x 5
Fruity Phaser x 1
dblue Glitch x 4
Fruity Peak Controler x 2.

A sample can be downloaded
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I remember my Athlon Xp 2800 stuck at 100 % load at this project. The E6850 reaches about 30 % at Peak times, in average it uses about 20 % workload and besides that im still connected to the internet, running thunderbird and pidgin instant messenger.
Obviously my new system is about 5 times stronger when producing with Fruityloops but this might differ abit when working with other programms.

Then i tried to shred the cpu with a pad using as much layers / plugins as possible, which was an absurd idea i noticed later. You can laugh about me here .

The pad contains 2 x z3ta, 3 x Albino 3, 2 x Native Instruments Massive, 3 x refx Vanguard and a few effect plugs. Cpu usage in average around 10 %.

Sample can be downloaded here.

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Originally posted by Massive84 for now, isn't it better to go for the heaviest single cores? Like the FX60 from AMD? I know in reason at least, when i went from pentium 4 2.8 gighz to my current AMD 4000 san diego. My cpu capacity increased by 4-5 times at least. Though i tried some VSTs and i know for example that some presets from NI Massive can take my entire cpu to 100%..freaking weird. Anyway i'll be goign for the FX60 when i get the money. Can't be arsed to get a new pc every year.

core 2 duo is the best way to go atm... you wont find anything comparable for the price. and both core`s are used. so actualy your mhz is doubled.

core 2 quad are two core2duo processor`s packed on one plate. i have not heard anything good about this cpu so far, would acualy wait for a real quad core to come out.

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wow thats quite nice then!!. I guess i should consider this in the future as well. I guess Reason won't go beyond 10% cpu usage with that processor.

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

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Originally posted by soundrush core 2 duo is the best way to go atm... you wont find anything comparable for the price. and both core`s are used. so actualy your mhz is doubled. core 2 quad are two core2duo processor`s packed on one plate. i have not heard anything good about this cpu so far, would acualy wait for a real quad core to come out.

hey mate, that's exactly what im going to get!
just wanted to know, what cooler do u have?
im probably going to get a NOCTUA NH-U12F or a SCYTHE NINJA PLUS REV. B, but I'm not sure yet... any other suggestions?

i want smth not that big, not that hot and not that noisy :P

ohh, also, what soundcard do u have?

oh, im not sure about the cooler. mine is pretty loud atm, but im looking for a quite one.
both cooler`s you name there seem to be pretty good so i would probably go for the cheaper one of them.

as soundcard i use creative x-fi fatality. actualy this is a gamer soundcard but the audioquality is pretty good and it supports asio 2, 32 bit and all the stuff i need for producing.

if you`re looking for a rather pure producing solution i would go for e-mu 0404 or a m-audio soundcard.

Well i just upgraded my pc ..(again..)

I went from AMD San Diego 4000, 2.41 gighz, 1mb L2cashe memory, with 2 gig PC3200 (i think 400mhz) Ram.

To this

E6750, Overclocked to 3 gighz (So the same as E6850) 4 gig Ram 800Mhz, though my windows only recognizes 3 gig. The dude explaind me that it's because am running windows 32 bits not 64. Is that true? any verification on this would be helpfull.

So far to be honnest, i see that there is 15-25% less cpu usage on some ofmy projects. It seems the TOXIC 3 synth is still a heavy synth.

Don't know. Was my old processor that strong?? i doubt it.

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

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Originally posted by Massive84 Well i just upgraded my pc ..(again..) I went from AMD San Diego 4000, 2.41 gighz, 1mb L2cashe memory, with 2 gig PC3200 (i think 400mhz) Ram. To this E6750, Overclocked to 3 gighz (So the same as E6850) 4 gig Ram 800Mhz, though my windows only recognizes 3 gig. The dude explaind me that it's because am running windows 32 bits not 64. Is that true? any verification on this would be helpfull. So far to be honnest, i see that there is 15-25% less cpu usage on some ofmy projects. It seems the TOXIC 3 synth is still a heavy synth. Don't know. Was my old processor that strong?? i doubt it.

Wow, nice setup you build there, how much did you pay?

Maybe Toxic3 doesnt support multicore cpu`s and just one core is running. guess you`ll notice the improvement when running more programms at once.

As far is i know xp is capable of using 4 gigs. 2 gb for the os itself and maximum of 2gb for external programms.