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Originally posted by Krypton IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENT. I'm not talking about ratifying it douchebag! Bush will not implement the treaty. Being a signatory does not mean mandatory implementation. Bush was the one who said, we will under any circumstances implement the treaty, when he had stated before during his campaign that he would negotiate how to implement the treaty.

Bush couldn't "IMPLEMENT" the treaty even if he wanted to. no one wants to.

...I find it funny you feel the need to resort to calling us terrorist lovers...

Are you really that low on intellect? I for one never supported terrorism. I don't support our fostering of anger in the muslim lands which is the source of terrorism. You seem to find it difficult to make this connection, but I will continue make it clear until you do. Terrorism has its source, and you misconception is that OBL is the source. Never have I said OBL is good, or anything, country boy

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Originally posted by Q5echo Bush couldn't "IMPLEMENT" the treaty even if he wanted to. no one wants to.

Did you fail to see that negociations were in progress about how to implement the Kyoto treaty. Duh, the Senate didn't want to sign on because of the developing nations issue. But they were negociating that problem!!! Bush pulled out of negotiations!! Which is why the EU and numerous bodies reacted with disdain when he did it.

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Originally posted by Krypton country boy

Even though I'm not southern, sure I'll be a country boy. Yeehaw to you, mr. terrorist lover.

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Originally posted by Krypton Did you fail to see that negociations were in progress about how to implement the Kyoto treaty. Duh, the Senate didn't want to sign on because of the developing nations issue. But they were negociating that problem!!! Bush pulled out of negotiations!! Which is why the EU and numerous bodies reacted with disdain when he did it.

he would need the full support of both Houses to what you say is in the best interests of the U.S.

he didn't have it when he took office.

he doesn't have it now. with good cause.

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Originally posted by CHRles Even though I'm not southern, sure I'll be a country boy. Yeehaw to you, mr. terrorist lover.

I saw nashville and immediatly thought war hawk country hick Since you love resorting to terrorist lover

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Originally posted by Q5echo he would need the full support of both Houses to what you say is in the best interests of the U.S. he didn't have it when he took office. he doesn't have it now. with good cause.

DO I have to say it again? The US was involved in negotiations to agree on a implementation plan that was acceptable to congress. Then they would have ratified it!! Bush cut that all off.

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Originally posted by Krypton Um, muslims view Israel and the US as one entity. You couldn't have Israel without the USA. As you hopefully know, muslims view the Palestinian refugee crisis as oppression from Israel for taking their land and by default the USA for being the backbone behind Israeli power since the Eisenhower admin. Don't tell me 911 attack was made simply because OBL just wants to rack up his "americans killed" tally...

Ah, there it is, the real Godwin's law - when all else fails terrorist lovers will blame Israel.
So Israel is to blame for Osama Bin Laden deciding to attack the US on 9/11.
I guess Egypt and Jordan are to blame as well, for having peace with Israel. The UN is to blame for giving the Jews a home. The Palestinians are to blame for negotiating a peace treaty with Israel.

Everyone's to blame except for poor old Osama Bin Laden

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Originally posted by Krypton The US was involved in negotiations to agree on a implementation plan that was acceptable to congress.

...and one of those criteria acceptable to Congress was articulated in S.Res. 98, passed in mid-1997, that the United States should not become a party to the Kyoto Protocol until developing countries are subject to binding emissions targets among a host of other things that Kyoto will never abide to.

think twice before you vomit crap like "Bush and his banking overseers in office....Notice how we withdrew from Kyoto treaty to protect multi-national corp profits."

i don't care if you hate Bush but just hating Bush is a piss poor starting point to form a worldview. Kyoto is no exception.

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Originally posted by Krypton Then they would have ratified it!!

you mean "IMPLEMENTED" it? you're a moron.

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Originally posted by CHRles Ah, there it is, the real Godwin's law - when all else fails terrorist lovers will blame Israel. So Israel is to blame for Osama Bin Laden deciding to attack the US on 9/11. I guess Egypt and Jordan are to blame as well, for having peace with Israel. The UN is to blame for giving the Jews a home. The Palestinians are to blame for negotiating a peace treaty with Israel. Everyone's to blame except for poor old Osama Bin Laden

US support for Israel is the reason for 911. OBL made this clear in his statements.

Try again...

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...and one of those criteria acceptable to Congress wasarticulated in S.Res. 98, passed in mid-1997, that the United States should not become a party to the Kyoto Protocol until developingcountries are subject to binding emissions targets among a host of other things that Kyoto will never abide to. think twice before you vomit crap like "Bush and his banking overseers in office....Notice how we withdrew from Kyoto treaty to protect multi-national corp profits." i don't care if you hate Bush but just hating Bush is a piss poor starting point to form a worldview. Kyoto is no exception.

And I'll say again that the negotiations were in progress about implementing the treaty in a way all countrys could agree on. Do you understand the words on the screeeeen

Where did Bush come from? Where did Dick come from. The Oil industry. What is the #1 commodity of this country? Oil. How much oil is in Iraq? 3rd largest reserve in the world. How have the 1.6 trillion dollars of the Bush tax cut affected the country? Wall Street rallied into record territory, yet the average workers wage increase was only marginal. Who is profitting? Multinational corps and the 1% of the people who own over 50% of the assets of this country.

My hatred of Bush began only as of this year. Before I was Bush neocon like yourselves. Then I did a little research. There I discovered the truth. The internet really can set you free. No corp can own the internet.

And the truth was, the Iraq war was not justified. So our continued presence is unjustified. Additionally, how could a president make such a serious blunder? Could our leadership really be that dumb? Or is there an alterior motive? I had to look at the corporate structure of this country, and the excesses it has brought upon us. That special interests now command the party's of country. I can't see how nobody sees this?

A president does not divide and split his people. He united them. Bush has failed at uniting us. He has divided us, and we will fall because of it. Ever heard the saying, united we stand, divided we fall. Well, my friend, me and you two are 100% divided aren't we. And its not just us. This country is basically split 50/50, and in COngress, its politics as usual when dealing with our problem.

Look at the Mexican border at how open it is. We have 12 million illegal immigrants. What is Bush doing down there? He ain't gonna do a DAMN THING!! Again special interests... Ever heard of NAFTA? North American Free Trade Agreement? They want a borderless north america by 2010. They want to convert our currency to something the amero. Bush serves special interests. That is why our borders are open, we are in Iraq, we pulled out of kyoto, why we are divided, and the list goes on and on on simply the worst president to ever serve two terms in office.

My worldview starts in study and research of law, psychology, and sociology. From that, I see a dirty game being played in Washington. I want the government to return back to its libertarian roots of the constitution. That governments role is to protect life, liberty, and property of its citizens. Not to engage in foreign wars and binding alliances as George Washington put it. I believe we the citizens are being sold out to special interests our rights, and because we are so hyponotized by materialism, of credit, of distractions, we don't see it happening. You think the media is going to tell you? They are all owned by a handful of multinational corps. Look at News Corps and Viacoms share of the market alone, then you'll see that you can't escape the influence of a select few entities who control our media. That is why I completely threw away my neocon notions of reality as propagated by Bill O'reilly, shawn hannity, and michael savage, and began my full-fledged support for libertarian views on just about everything. Ron Paul and Mike Gravel both exemplify the views of millions of americans such as myself who believe in the constitution. Not special interests. Bush has no desire to protect our constitution. Otherwise he wouldn't have taken the power of Habeas Corpus from the people.

I am a constitutional libertarian, and if you wanna call me a terrorist, then I'm proud to terrorize you fucking neocons until you realize the wrongness your ways. Slowly but surely you will lose as you lost the 2006 elections I sure can't wait for 2008 when you war lovers will lose the presidency.

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Originally posted by Krypton US support for Israel is the reason for 911. OBL made this clear in his statements.

if that was his only reason (it isn't), how do even begin to rationalize (which you have made clear in your statements) it as an American.