I'm completely shocked that he thinks there is some kind of beauty in martyrdom, that it's a wothy art form. I mean what a back wards way of thinking. Who would ever do something like that?

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Originally posted by atbell I'm completely shocked that he thinks there is some kind of beauty in martyrdom, that it's a wothy art form. I mean what a back wards way of thinking. Who would ever do something like that?

Wasn't Jesus executed?

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I think the standard line is that he died for our sins, maybe something like "god gave up his only begoten son".

It may not be quite the same but I think the implication is pretty strong.

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Originally posted by Krypton Wasn't Jesus executed?

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Originally posted by atbell I think the standard line is that he died for our sins, maybe something like "god gave up his only begoten son". It may not be quite the same but I think the implication is pretty strong.

As Krypton mentioned, Jesus was sentenced to death.
He didnt blow himself up and killed others in the process.

I seriously doubt those Iranian youths all suffer from suicidal tendancies. They're simply programmed to "self detonate" and kill others in the process in the name of their country and religion.
Totally different from the ways of Christ wouldn't you say?

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Originally posted by CHRles I seriously doubt those Iranian youths all suffer from suicidal tendancies. They're simply programmed to "self detonate" and kill others in the process in the name of their country and religion. Totally different from the ways of Christ wouldn't you say?

You can shove your christ up your ass first of all.

Second,You think the Iranian youths are a bunch of brainless sheeps waiting to go blow themselves up? Sorry kid but they are not American sheeps like yourself.They have a mind of their own and access to sorts of informations.They dont need their government to tell them what to do.They can decide on their own.

When it comes to defending your country you will do whatever it takes.You wouldnt know that tho since you have never been involved in any war.So stfu and dont compare life in Nashville to the real world.

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First of all I'm non religious so feel free to shove Jehovah, Jesus, Mohammad, and Budha all up your butt anytime. I hear it goes great with your ghey buttsecks.

Second, I know that I wouldn't send my kids to fight a war for me. I know that I wouldn't encourage them to strap bombs on themselves.

We do have troubled youth in this country, as evidenced by events in high schools in Colorado and Arkansas, and on college campuses in places like Virginia.
The difference is the United States CONDONES such actions. It tries very hard to prevent such things from developing.

The opposite is appearantly true in countries like Iran where they teach you that its okay to "blow up", and I don't mean on drugs.
So I think the Iranian youths are highly influenced by what their adults tell them, and what is validated by their leaders.

What access and information is it that you speak of that these Iranian youths can tap into?

PS I didnt realize Nashville was a virtual place. I thought it was in the real world! Regardless, I just know for a fact that I'd take it any day over living in a place like Tehran. Appearantly the Iranians who live here feel the same way.
In fact, I don't know of anyone from Nashville that plans to move to Iran anytime soon...

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Originally posted by CHRles The opposite is appearantly true in countries like Iran where they teach you that its okay to "blow up", and I don't mean on drugs. So I think the Iranian youths are highly influenced by what their adults tell them, and what is validated by their leaders.

oh please. don't think for a second the US is ANY different. the US government uses hollywood films to encourage enlisting in the military ffs.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN oh please. don't think for a second the US is ANY different. the US government uses hollywood films to encourage enlisting in the military ffs.

Joining the army is vastly different. Come on, a little perspective please.

What like Australia doesn't have an army? Unless you live in Switzerland chances are you live in a country where there's some type of army.

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Originally posted by CHRles Joining the army is vastly different. Come on, a little perspective please.

is it? define the difference for me.

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What like Australia doesn't have an army? Unless you live in Switzerland chances are you live in a country where there's some type of army.

my comments dont relate to the army. they related to how the government manipulates the populace to use them for their ideological ends- like my example with hollywood and the dept of defence.

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The US army doesn't recruit 12 year old boys and then tells them to blow themselves up.

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Originally posted by CHRles The US army doesn't recruit 12 year old boys and then tells them to blow themselves up.

no, they just kill 12 yo boys, and rape the 12 yo girls.

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