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Originally posted by The Arbiter I have played those games, intensively.

then you shouldnt have to ask why i referred to halo as slow.

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If you look at Halo like that than you fail because games arnt generally supposed to conform to deathmatch style gameplay.

youre an idiot. i never said that it had to conform to anything. you asked a question, and i told you why i didnt like it- its too slow. did i say "omg its not quake" ?

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Halo bend's more toward's tactical shooter than DM.

oh yeah sorry. my mistake. that's why the extreme "tactical" nature of this shooter had deathmatch and team deathmatch as 50% of its multiplayer modes (at least, memory is a bit foggy). tactical shooter don't give the games airs it doesn't deserve.

halo is an unrealistic shooter played in a deathmatch fashion, circle strafing included. so a comparison to any other unrealistic shooter where you circle strafe aliens is a completely valid point. so don't be such a fool.

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f you like DM style games only than fair enough, but a comparison between Halo and Q3 is inherently pointless and is not and effective way to debunk Halo.

wow, perhaps you should pay attention to TA user Arbiter coz he at least knows how to string a coherent argument together. again, you asked me what i meant by "slow". that is all. so stop putting words in my mouth.

but, since you raised it- halo requires far less skill than almost any shooter i've ever played. it was slow and painful to play. the only reason halo is big is because of xbox, pure and simple. it doesn't hold a torch to any decent PC shooter made in the same era. possibly the worst MP FPS ive ever played (of any title of note). boring, slow. its a fanboy's game, to be loved by those with relatively minor experience in topnotch shooters (ie the casual console market).

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Originally posted by The Arbiter Yeah, that's the point. It can't be classified into any certain genre and a comparison is impossible.

are you fucking kidding me? fuck man, its like you think it was the second coming or something games like deus ex or bioshock are difficult to classify. halo, no.

honestly, kids today

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then you shouldnt have to ask why i referred to halo as slow.

I did, because it isnt the same type of game. As I explained.

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youre an idiot. i never said that it had to conform to anything. you asked a question, and i told you why i didnt like it- its too slow. did i say "omg its not quake" ?

It was the idea of a comparison between Halo and Quake that I was objecting too, clearly stating that if you meant to say you only like games like Quake than that was fine. Instead you reacted defensively like this to a post that didnt wasnt calling for a release of rage.

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oh yeah sorry. my mistake. that's why the extreme "tactical" nature of this shooter had deathmatch and team deathmatch as 50% of its multiplayer modes (at least, memory is a bit foggy). tactical shooter don't give the games airs it doesn't deserve.

Sigh. I said it bends more towards tactical shooters. As opposed to trying to be a DM-type game. I didnt try to say it was realistic, nor extremely tactical.

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but, since you raised it- halo requires far less skill than almost any shooter i've ever played. it was slow and painful to play. the only reason halo is big is because of xbox, pure and simple. it doesn't hold a torch to any decent PC shooter made in the same era. possibly the worst MP FPS ive ever played (of any title of note). boring, slow. its a fanboy's game, to be loved by those with relatively minor experience in topnotch shooters (ie the casual console market).

You say it asif it's fact. Its subjective. I am not dealing in subjectivity, I am simply saying that looking at Halo like it's supposed to conform to DM-style gameplay is problematic.

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are you fucking kidding me? fuck man, its like you think it was the second coming or something games like deus ex or bioshock are difficult to classify. halo, no.

Wow, a real bastion of power for the PC FPS gaming you are. Flammatory and a generalisation imposing prick. Nice.

I dont think Halo is the second coming. (see my first post in the thread that slates Halo2.) I have actually speant most of my forum time over the past couple of years or so on a site called H2S, which specifically slates Halo for all it's dissapointments despite the massive hype and lies Bungie poured into the game. Don't put words in my mouth, especially trying to claim that Im putting words in yours.

By the way, Im not a kid and clearly show a higher mind and maturity than yourself, reacting in such a way to a singular un-provocative post.

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i played halo a couple times, nothing special

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Halo is the best example that exists of the absolutely horrid state of affairs the modern gaming industry is in. It works solely because it panders to the lowest common denominator and has absolutely no soul.

The epitome of a generic FPS that any asshole can pick up and play - utter shit.

Fuck Halo.

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i wouldn't say its soulless, its got a pretty interesting plot. Its not too innovative, but it has its appeal.

I think you just say that because you don't like it and you are frustrated by the hype. Am I wrong ? ?

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Originally posted by stren i wouldn't say its soulless, its got a pretty interesting plot. Its not too innovative, but it has its appeal. I think you just say that because you don't like it and you are frustrated by the hype. Am I wrong ? ?

What story again? Doesn't every single review of every Halo game that has come out even acknowledge that there really is no story what-so-ever?

Beyond that, the environments are the epitome of bland, the pace of the game is mindnumbingly slow, the weapons are as generic as any I've ever seen, the multiplayer is the exact same multiplayer we've seen in FPS games since Quake, and the single player experience is without a doubt a waste of time.

If you'd like me to go on, I'll gladly do so - but if you really think it's just the hype, and not the fact that I've actually sat down and tried to enjoy these utterly shit games, you haven't the foggiest.

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halo1 > halo2 > halo3

multiplayer > campaign

anyone who doesnt like it is simply mad cuz they keep getting their asses kicked. how about you try playing the game and getting better instead of just crying about it?

i get my ass kicked on a regular basis but can also kick some ass too. but when you get a good players and a good game going, halo is one of the best games ever.

i will be playing the 3rd halo whenever i get the money to buy an xbox360. ill be a month or two late and everyone will be owning my ass, but i dont care. i play to have fun, and when i can to kick some ass.

there are way too many people out there that take gaming too seriously. and to be honest, the only ones that should take it seriously are the pro players that play in tournaments for $50,000. everyone else needs to shut the fuck up. ITS A FUCKING GAME! THATS IT!

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin anyone who doesnt like it is simply mad cuz they keep getting their asses kicked. how about you try playing the game and getting better instead of just crying about it?

That's essentially the equivalent to the "I'd like to see you do better!" argument that gets thrown about in Music Discussion threads every day - congratulations on joining the ranks of the other gimps who can't form a coherent argument or thought and thus choose to talk shit and make baseless assumptions instead of even attempting to sound intelligent.

Brilliant strategy, Pat.

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Originally posted by RJT That's essentially the equivalent to the "I'd like to see you do better!" argument that gets thrown about in Music Discussion threads every day - congratulations on joining the ranks of the other gimps who can't form a coherent argument or thought and thus choose to talk shit and make baseless assumptions instead of even attempting to sound intelligent. Brilliant strategy, Pat.

am i supposed to feel pwned or something by that? go jack off on someone else in the c0r please.

Thank you for proving my point.

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Originally posted by RJT Thank you for proving my point.

if you like it not, i have an opinion. you can choose to disagree, but you cant invalidate it. sucks for you.

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin if you like it not, i have an opinion. you can choose to disagree, but you cant invalidate it. sucks for you.

This is not how you posit an opinion:

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Originally posted by PatMcGroin anyone who doesnt like it is simply mad cuz they keep getting their asses kicked. how about you try playing the game and getting better instead of just crying about it?

And furthermore, if you really wanted anyone to take your opinion seriously, acting like a 5 year old whose parents have told him he's special one too many times is hardly the way to do it.

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