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tubby
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this shows how the term trance has lost it's meaning. Used to be you got totally lost in the tunes, now anything without a massive breakdown is considered an undesirable element that you just have to put up with every now and then, much like that crap in hotdogs that isn't really meat.
trance these days is far less likely to have you in a trance on the floor than a lot of progressive is.

Old Post Oct-03-2007 22:35  Australia
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Yohan
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The amount of 'filler' tunes I'd use depends on the crowd. Seems a lot of n00bs only want tunes they recognize, or a particular style of trance and the 'fillers' once in a while is okay for a breather.

Seems to me more educated a crowd is in terms of music, more they appreciate a good 'filler' tune to help craft a set.

In the end, you can play a set that is amazing by your fellow peers who understand the music a bit, but if the crowd doesn't like it, then you suck


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not true. i say "ugh"
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agentdansmith
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quote:
Originally posted by tubby
trance these days is far less likely to have you in a trance on the floor than a lot of progressive is.


This would explain why I have been really getting into my prog house just lately. A lot of it has a trancey melody but never breaks down into a massive hands in the air breakdown - it just stays as an undertone to the beats and bassline.


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Beatflux
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quote:
Originally posted by tubby
much like that crap in hotdogs that isn't really meat.


They have organic hot dogs now.


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richg101
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imo it is harder to produce a good filler track than it is to make a good stand out track. subtlety is hard to get right

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Stu Cox
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imo it is harder to produce a good filler track than it is to make a good stand out track. subtlety is hard to get right

Yeah definitely, plus most producers (particularly "young" ones) don't want their track to be the track that just kept the dancefloor bubbling along, they want their track to be the one everyone was singing on their way home, so they tend to shy away from it and these tracks become hard to come by.

This is why a lot of the time I "borrow" tracks from other genres which work as deep groover in a trance/tech set, when they might be a peak-time anthem in a prog set or whatever... obviously only some tracks work like this, but if you can find them it's awesome.


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agentdansmith
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Originally posted by Stu Cox
This is why a lot of the time I "borrow" tracks from other genres which work as deep groover in a trance/tech set, when they might be a peak-time anthem in a prog set or whatever... obviously only some tracks work like this, but if you can find them it's awesome.


This is what I've been doing lately too - in a prog house set, I tend to use some tech house as the 'fillers' and maybe even some minimal works well too

I think it makes a set much more interesting anyway if you cross over genres slightly.


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cmay119
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This is what I've been doing lately too - in a prog house set, I tend to use some tech house as the 'fillers' and maybe even some minimal works well too

I think it makes a set much more interesting anyway if you cross over genres slightly.


+1. I agree entirely. Tech House and Minimal especially work well for this because of the unique sounds that will come from them in comparison to the Prog House tracks you've been spinning during the mix/set.

Electro House can also work to fill this void in the filler category, but the sound isn't changing all that much (just a fartier bassline) to that of the prog house.

I also love to use Minimal/Tech House/Techno in a mix as well to take it in a different direction.

EDIT: How could I forget about lovely Progressive Breaks? That usually stirs up somethin' when you throw a breakbeat in on a standard beat mix.


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