Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > World's oldest tree in B.C. falls
Pages (4): « 1 2 [3] 4 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
eROs.au
Chuck Bass



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Upper East Side
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: World's oldest tree in B.C. falls

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


Ok, lets cut down all the rainforests then [continue cutting them]. Who cares that rainforests are home to almost two thirds of the world's medicines. It won't affect the quality of air, it wont affect the soil, the climate, the water quality and the animals, plants and insects that depend on trees. Trees are just for a show, marijuana plants are far more important to support life than stupid trees. Algae is all we need, algae is more important than trees. After all, marijuana plants keep the soil stronger and healthier than trees can ever do.


No, I disagree with you completely. Trees are important.


___________________

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

Old Post Oct-14-2007 05:55  Australia
Click Here to See the Profile for eROs.au Click here to Send eROs.au a Private Message Visit eROs.au's homepage! Add eROs.au to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DJ Shibby
Amphoteric Superbase



Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Of Earthzen and the Therethen
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: World's oldest tree in B.C. falls

quote:
Originally posted by eROs.au
No, I disagree with you completely. Trees are important.


LOL

I agree also... trees are very important. I have no idea what Magnetonium has against trees.

Grow more hemp, save the ozone!

Old Post Oct-14-2007 06:17  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for DJ Shibby Click here to Send DJ Shibby a Private Message Visit DJ Shibby's homepage! Add DJ Shibby to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Magnetonium
Dubstep = Douchestep



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: World's oldest tree in B.C. falls

quote:
Originally posted by eROs.au
No, I disagree with you completely. Trees are important.


But you said that hemp is more important than trees


___________________
Whenever you go and buy something, you are affecting someone somewhere, be it environment, a person, or a community - you're making a statement with what you buy. So make it a smart choice ... Its a big picture

Old Post Oct-14-2007 14:54  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for Magnetonium Click here to Send Magnetonium a Private Message Visit Magnetonium's homepage! Add Magnetonium to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
ResonantDrag
BeanAddict



Registered: Mar 2001
Location: just visiting



looks like death happened a while back, it just fell

Old Post Oct-14-2007 15:22  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for ResonantDrag Click here to Send ResonantDrag a Private Message Add ResonantDrag to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Magnetonium
Dubstep = Douchestep



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada
Re: World's oldest tree in B.C. falls

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
LOL

I agree also... trees are very important. I have no idea what Magnetonium has against trees.

Grow more hemp, save the ozone!


How good is growing more hemp when many trees get cut down. Mature trees are capable of stabilizing carbon much better than hemp can, though hemp has many good uses as well.Just not very correct to compare hemp to trees when it comes to environment health.

Indeed, that was an old tree. Natural causes.


___________________
Whenever you go and buy something, you are affecting someone somewhere, be it environment, a person, or a community - you're making a statement with what you buy. So make it a smart choice ... Its a big picture

Old Post Oct-14-2007 16:19  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for Magnetonium Click here to Send Magnetonium a Private Message Visit Magnetonium's homepage! Add Magnetonium to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium

The death of an important tree should make people feel more alarmed and concerned about the issue of deforestation.


...but there's no connection since the tree died of natural causes...

Besides, if you're going to make any connection, you might want to point out the number of fires started by people.
B.C. looses and gains thousands of acres of trees every year so there's no reason to be alarmist on this one tree (as sad as it is).


___________________
"...End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path...one that we all must take.
The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

Old Post Oct-14-2007 17:22  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for Fir3start3r Click here to Send Fir3start3r a Private Message Add Fir3start3r to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: World's oldest tree in B.C. falls

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


But you said that hemp is more important than trees

You can't smoke trees. Case closed.


___________________
"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Old Post Oct-14-2007 17:34  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for shaolin_Z Click here to Send shaolin_Z a Private Message Add shaolin_Z to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
atbell
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Actually, I just quoted the first paragraph, because I really didn't understand the link between this one tree and global warming

I was just saying how ironic is that several of these magnificent tress have been lost to weather recently ... as many more are getting cut.



You should see the devastation in Stanly Park. I was there last weekend and what used to be a solid forest has huge clearings now that were pounded down by the wind a year ago.

I read a paper on deforestation that found that forests filter out some 1000 tones of carbon / square km / year. (can't find the link though )

And yes, the tree did make a sound, the whole city has been invited to the funeral too

Old Post Oct-15-2007 07:21  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for atbell Click here to Send atbell a Private Message Add atbell to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Magnetonium
Dubstep = Douchestep



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
...but there's no connection since the tree died of natural causes...

Besides, if you're going to make any connection, you might want to point out the number of fires started by people.
B.C. looses and gains thousands of acres of trees every year so there's no reason to be alarmist on this one tree (as sad as it is).


I am not making a connection between this tree and deforestation, its just it was the first thing on my mind. I am surprised that most people dont think of that. Here, check out some nice British Columbia maps for deforestation:

Start zoomin' in on some of these, bud:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=vanco...46875&t=k&hl=en

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=vanco...29688&t=k&hl=en

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=vanco...71875&t=k&hl=en


http://maps.google.com/maps?q=vanco...34375&t=k&hl=en


___________________
Whenever you go and buy something, you are affecting someone somewhere, be it environment, a person, or a community - you're making a statement with what you buy. So make it a smart choice ... Its a big picture

Old Post Oct-15-2007 10:49  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for Magnetonium Click here to Send Magnetonium a Private Message Visit Magnetonium's homepage! Add Magnetonium to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DJ Shibby
Amphoteric Superbase



Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Of Earthzen and the Therethen
Re: Re: World's oldest tree in B.C. falls

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


How good is growing more hemp when many trees get cut down. Mature trees are capable of stabilizing carbon much better than hemp can, though hemp has many good uses as well.Just not very correct to compare hemp to trees when it comes to environment health.

Indeed, that was an old tree. Natural causes.


Tell you what, you go do a few minutes of research on the cubic densities of oxygen put out by certain species of trees, then compare it to the oxygen output of hemp.

NOW, take a look at the growing cycles, longevity, and propagation of that tree vs that of hemp.

Come back to us with the conclusion please. Then let's smoke.

Old Post Oct-15-2007 13:21  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for DJ Shibby Click here to Send DJ Shibby a Private Message Visit DJ Shibby's homepage! Add DJ Shibby to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Magnetonium
Dubstep = Douchestep



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada
Re: Re: Re: World's oldest tree in B.C. falls

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Tell you what, you go do a few minutes of research on the cubic densities of oxygen put out by certain species of trees, then compare it to the oxygen output of hemp.

NOW, take a look at the growing cycles, longevity, and propagation of that tree vs that of hemp.

Come back to us with the conclusion please. Then let's smoke.




Hahah ... once again you're comparing trees to plans. Mature trees have bigger leaf area for bigger absorption of the same greenhouse gases. They take up more carbon. And on average hemp doesnt live longer than trees - its a plant. It is much thinner with much smaller leaf size and intake area.

Of course some rare trees are inferior to hemp, but overall trees stabilize more carbon, support more life and soil and have more benefits to the environment than hemp does. To drug-addicted humans, its opposite. But you wont be to survive without trees which are the backbone of the biosphere. In short term, in the growing season hemp surely does outperform trees, just like most plants do, but at the end of season, it suffers the fate of most plants ... plus, in this case, its smoked up and all the gases are back into the atmosphere. Imagine cutting down the entire rainforest and replacing it with hemp - get the idea? Havent you heard of the term that describes forests as "Lungs of the Earth"? Not hemp, sorry. The only advantage of hemp is short term - it grows faster than trees, but it doesnt reach the potential to that of trees (and with shorter life span). Hemp doesnt support much life either (other than perhaps breeding grounds for mosquitos), and just suiting fine to the human desires and the cravings of a weed user.

Only a fool would say that plants stabilize carbon better and take up more greenhouse gases than trees do. Rainforests that produce much of the breathing oxygen are not made up of hemp, they're FORESTS, aka trees.

The amazing hemp (check out the massive size of the plant:
Hemp Pic

Firs random google result for some trees:
Random trees pic

OK, you dont need to be a genius to figure out which one intakes more greenhouse gases .. and trees have longevity advantages, too. Does a hemp have a lifespan of 50-100 years?


___________________
Whenever you go and buy something, you are affecting someone somewhere, be it environment, a person, or a community - you're making a statement with what you buy. So make it a smart choice ... Its a big picture

Old Post Oct-15-2007 22:42  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for Magnetonium Click here to Send Magnetonium a Private Message Visit Magnetonium's homepage! Add Magnetonium to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
DJ Shibby
Amphoteric Superbase



Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Of Earthzen and the Therethen
Re: Re: Re: Re: World's oldest tree in B.C. falls

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium


Hahah ... once again you're comparing trees to plans. Mature trees have bigger leaf area for bigger absorption of the same greenhouse gases. They take up more carbon. And on average hemp doesnt live longer than trees - its a plant. It is much thinner with much smaller leaf size and intake area.

Of course some rare trees are inferior to hemp, but overall trees stabilize more carbon, support more life and soil and have more benefits to the environment than hemp does. To drug-addicted humans, its opposite. But you wont be to survive without trees which are the backbone of the biosphere. In short term, in the growing season hemp surely does outperform trees, just like most plants do, but at the end of season, it suffers the fate of most plants ... plus, in this case, its smoked up and all the gases are back into the atmosphere. Imagine cutting down the entire rainforest and replacing it with hemp - get the idea? Havent you heard of the term that describes forests as "Lungs of the Earth"? Not hemp, sorry. The only advantage of hemp is short term - it grows faster than trees, but it doesnt reach the potential to that of trees (and with shorter life span). Hemp doesnt support much life either (other than perhaps breeding grounds for mosquitos), and just suiting fine to the human desires and the cravings of a weed user.

Only a fool would say that plants stabilize carbon better and take up more greenhouse gases than trees do. Rainforests that produce much of the breathing oxygen are not made up of hemp, they're FORESTS, aka trees.

The amazing hemp (check out the massive size of the plant:
Hemp Pic

Firs random google result for some trees:
Random trees pic

OK, you dont need to be a genius to figure out which one intakes more greenhouse gases .. and trees have longevity advantages, too. Does a hemp have a lifespan of 50-100 years?


All of your baseless ad hominems aside, you didn't even take a second to research what I asked you to research.

Old Post Oct-16-2007 03:43  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for DJ Shibby Click here to Send DJ Shibby a Private Message Visit DJ Shibby's homepage! Add DJ Shibby to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > World's oldest tree in B.C. falls
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (4): « 1 2 [3] 4 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackID Please??? [2005] [1]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackArbus - Raw Energy (Soho Remix) [2003]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 16:09.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!