The "rubber band" theory of the universe is currently out of favor with cosmologists.

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Originally posted by THE_Chris That assumes that time is linear, ie: it has a past, present and future. That may not be the case and time may be some abstract property, thereby saying "the first one" might be a meaningless concept

Indeed, if time isn't linear, then asking what created the universe becomes a meaningless question, because creation implies linear time.

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Originally posted by Ygrene ....I have absolutely no facts to base it off of but, just 'a feeling'. Kinda scary really.

People have been thinking like this for eons. Nothing has happened yet.

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Originally posted by twilightki : It feels like something you'd listen to at 4 in the morning, or listen to in your car while you're going in a tunnel.

Damn, these giant stars really made us feel tiny

Anyway, this is the kind of stuff I try not to bother with. Not because it isn't interesting, quite on the contrary, but I just can't grasp physical existence at all.

Edit: What's up with those names? "VY Canis Majoris"? Couldn't they have chosen something like "Gigantic Hotness in Canis Majoris" or "Billy Canis Majoris"?

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Last edited by Lira on Oct-13-2007 at 19:55

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Originally posted by we_R_DNA In theory a super massive time rift created the known space time we live in. I mean and this is a theory, is that we are right now inside of a super massive black hole. The edge of the known universe is the Event horizon.

On second thought... Black holes shred the shit out of matter when consuming it. How could the matter in our known "universe" have been sucked into a super massive black hole and still be intact? Or does that mean the black hole was created around us or something? I'm so confused

Its kind of funny thinking of black holes being inside of black holes

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Originally posted by eROs.au Don't kill me if I'm wrong (OMEGA M), but doesn't Hinduism teach that the universe is eternal, and it repeats in cycles. This would make sense, if the universe has a big bang, expands, then contracts, and has a big bang again. No need for it to have a true beginning

In essence yes. It is said that the universe came into existence out of nothing (singularity) and will go back into nothingness. Such cycles will repeat endlessly. Pretty much sounds like the big bang at the beginning of time. Dunno how the physical predictions match up with the way the end of this cycle is predicted in the philosophy.

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Originally posted by twilightki : It feels like something you'd listen to at 4 in the morning, or listen to in your car while you're going in a tunnel.

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Originally posted by Lira but I just can't grasp physical existence at all.

+1, it's really hard to imagine something as big as VY Canis Majoris...
It's really out of any imaginable proportions.
But still, I find astronomy very interesting.

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Originally posted by Omega_M In essence yes. It is said that the universe came into existence out of nothing (singularity) and will go back into nothingness.

I've always imagined that as a formating of a harddrive. Once upon a time, you just have to do it.


Maybe we live in someone's harddrive.


Oh well, I shouldn't drink too much of beer.

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Halo invented the universe.

techno viking created the universe.

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Originally posted by SuspicionVandit it's impossible to determine. From what I understand(in theory), our universe was created by The Big Bang, which in turn, was caused by The Big Crunch of the previous Universe. The Big Crunch is caused by all the gravitational forces in the universe slowing down the expansion of the universe (which is proven in our universe), to the point where all bodies of mass no longer move outwards, but attract each other inwards. To the point of a huge crunch of mass, exploding into a big bang, and creating another universe.

I've never heard of the "Big Crunch", I have however heard of the "Big Rip"

In the sense of a balloon, it can only expand so much when its being filled up and then it reaches it's breaking point. The idea of the big rip is that the universe will eventually reach it's breaking point and rip itself apart as it continues to expand.

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