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Originally posted by trunks1022 mel - grand street stop ftl. the worst is when people that are obviously too big try and squeeze themselves into a bucket seat. i have to suck in my breath just for this person to sit next to me? eff that

LOL!!! Then they look at you like WTF why are you in my seat. No bitch its the other way around your fat ass is in mine

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Originally posted by Blake You sound like a non-native New Yorker =P . The simple answer, I think, is that the above ^^^ is what happens when you've lived in New York for too long. I'm not guilty of pushing anyone out of the way to get a seat. Nothing wrong with standing, ESPECIALLY before OR after sitting around in an office all day.. but I definitely used to be much better about giving my seat up. Growing up I used to give up my seat for EVERYYYONEE. I suppose I was taught to be polite and whatnot. Now though, I usually don't have much mercy. The way it works is... after a a good number of years living here you realize that there are MILLIONS of people who ride the train with you every day and you can't make them ALL happy every day. Moreover, no one is necessarily more or less valuable as a human being that they should get special treatment. Living in New York entails standing up on trains and busses every now and then. Surely old people are aware of this and have accepted these conditions, as we still see them riding the trains every day. Nowadays, unless I'm in a great great mood, I only usually get up for a really pregnant woman, a pregnant woman with kids, or an old person who doesn't look like they're fit to stand. Oh, also a woman with a newborn or child who is unable to walk. I'm not sure it's really about laziness though. I think the mentality is "Why should I have to expend extra energy in order for YOU to preserve yours?" "Why should YOU have to expend extra energy on account of me conserving mine?? What makes me so special that you should go the extra mile??" I really hate how this all sounds, just to let you know. I do recognize that it's a bit harsh, but I think high density populations, where people HAVE to look out for themselves because no one else will, are what produce the kind of behaviors you've been observing. Standing up on a crowded train is probably one more stressful thing that people want to cross off their list of stressful things that they have to deal with on a typical NYC day. It's a lot easier to be polite when the population is only 100 or 200,000. lol... I've been here too long.

Blake that has nothing to do with being a non-native new yorker. That post just made me lose a little respect for you.

I can't wait until your 80 and need a seat and I'll have my kids look at you and be like, fuck him let the old man stand there, maybe if we are lucky someone will push him down.

No matter how long I have lived in NY, when I ride the trains if there is someone who is more need of a seat then I am I am going to give it up, Guess my momma raised me right.

But this thread has more to do with being lazy then the NYC subway system.....cause we could go on and on and on about that

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if we want to continue the laziness theme I've got more...explain to me why when I was an intern people in my office would run me around like I was their slave. One person would walk all the way down to my cube and give me something to give someone else who was literally steps away from me . Or even better when I go to the mailroom people are surprised that I'm willing to stick the FedEx stickers on my packages...

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

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Originally posted by mr. poopyhead cause it's more stressful on an older person's body... they way i see it, for me to stand 10 minutes, or open a door for someone, might stress my joints and take a few SECONDS of my life in the end.... for an elderly person to exert the same energy, might stress their body a lot more and take, say, a few DAYS off their life... kids these days are jackasses... no respect for no one... not even the elderly.

Sorry but just being old isn't enough to qualify a person for any kind of special treatment. There are plenty of old people who are perfectly healthy and physically capable. I see them every day preform the amazing feat of standing up while riding the train. My guess is that at least 10 million people pass through the city via public transportation every day, so riding the train for 15+ years it's likely that I've encountered many MANY old folks on the train so, to give up a seat for every last one I see... heh. Sorry but no. I usually just judge based on how each person looks. A perfectly healthy looking 62 year old still has a good few years left before I jump up out of my seat.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 mel - grand street stop ftl. the worst is when people that are obviously too big try and squeeze themselves into a bucket seat. i have to suck in my breath just for this person to sit next to me? eff that

I can't stand when people do that either. It's simple physics, no?

Two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time *gasp*

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Originally posted by Fl@k Monkey Problem is not many people in the world have the consideration for others. I find most people dont give a crap about others.. So more people (who would normally give up a seat) eventually stop being so nice and giving.. Simply because they've been nice in past and It's gone unthanked.

That is so true. The nice guys always end up bitter at some point. I used to be one of those; gave up my seat, opened doors, gave change to hoboes... Then slowly I realised how pointless it is in a competitive world where it's every man for himself. People will just abuse of you and be ungreatful. Besides - what have any of those people done for you?

One time I was going home late from work (4am or so) and I pass by some dirty looking hobo who asks me for change. I tell him I don't have any, but I was going to buy some stuff at a corner store and I'd give him some on my way back. I come back not 2 minutes later and he was gone. From that point I never gave change to anyone again.

So the moral of the story is; fuck other people. If I see a tired shaking old man with blisters on his feet, the fact that he's not me is reason enough not to give up my seat. Every man for himself. Now that I've grown accustomed to this line of thinking, I like it much better.

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Originally posted by Project-K That is so true. The nice guys always end up bitter at some point. I used to be one of those; gave up my seat, opened doors, gave change to hoboes... Then slowly I realised how pointless it is in a competitive world where it's every man for himself. People will just abuse of you and be ungreatful. Besides - what have any of those people done for you?

Isn't there a belief in Karma? Maybe that person wont do something for you but at some point in time someone will.

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Originally posted by phuzzyfish12 Isn't there a belief in Karma?

No. And if such a thing existed I'd be long due for winning the lottery.

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Originally posted by Project-K No. And if such a thing existed I'd be long due for winning the lottery.

One day you'll need help and no one will be there for you...that's karma not winning the lottery

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Originally posted by phuzzyfish12 One day you'll need help and no one will be there for you...that's karma not winning the lottery

true meredith...I'm a firm believer in what goes around comes around. I try to treat people the way I would like to be treated...when I broke my right arm other people zipped up my coat, tied my shoes and took notes for me in school. There will be a time when everyone needs some type of help and the energy you exert to help them is less than the energy it takes for them to do something so why not do it?

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Originally posted by Ygrene I once saw Swamper peel off 4 or 5 $100 bills from a fat roll and say this to Donald Trump: "Go clean yourself up; you look like a bum.". And then he threw the bills right in Trump's face/hair! Then Swamper and his entourage of 30, who were all wearing TA monogramed Rolexes, left the room and flew to Hawaii for a few hours because Del wanted fresh coconut. To his defense, Trump didn't even really look like a bum.

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Originally posted by Lilith Why people are lazy? Think it's just the sheepish mentality of mimicking other's behaviour and following the path of least resistance through their lives. It's why people get their stomach stapled instead of just putting down the fork, why they know they'll be fit by walking the long way around instead of the escalators, eat fast food instead of taking 5mins in the morning to make something that wont give them diabetes. They just can. It's convenient and as much as it'll come back to haunt them, they simply don't care or figure they'll do it tomorrow.

yep...sounds like a typical american to me

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Originally posted by Zild Fuck old people.

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Originally posted by Zild Pushing old farts down the stairs is quite a lot of fun.

there will come a time when you will regret having said these words.

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Originally posted by afterhrsgurl yep...sounds like a typical american to me

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