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venomX
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover


Fair enough, that was an overstatement In any case, any military action against China is senseless. My other points still stand. And another thing to consider is the reaction in the region. Even if the US could manage to withstand the economic fallout, what would Russia and the Middle East do? The US can't take China on by itself, what would happened if Russia jumped in? What would the EU do? It is quite narrow minded to say that the US could just up and nuke China.


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Nuking the world is a really good idea. Just when I thought you couldn't be any stupider, you say something like this...and totally redeem yourself!


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Groundhog Boy
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Registered: May 2005
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Originally posted by LatinLover
The Chinese are restructuring their military and they dont come near to have our technological military advancements.

Who cares, it wouldn't take long for everything that we have to dry up if China called in the debts. That's what happens when you piss off people that you owe money to. Where are we going to get money buy all the technological military advancements? Also, you do realize that if we would nuke, the entire world would shut us off. Kind of a problem considering the trade deficit that we run at. That is, if China or Russia didn't nuke us before all of this transpired. The sort of aggression that you're advocating is what caused World War II and most UN backed missions since, like Desert Storm. You just don't take over countries because you feel like it.

Do you really have to express how much of a fucking retard you are with every post that you make? Go back to posting articles, then don't bother to post in the thread again.


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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

I was considering on commenting about this topic, but I can't because I just lost a few neurons flipping through these pages and reading the rationale of our dear Latin. I want that lost time and brain cells back, I really do.

Welp, for all you laissez faire type folks who respect the "voice" of thrice-banned trolls like our dear LatinLover/arnoldj child here, best of luck.


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Just curious, how old are you Latin ?


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Registered: Oct 2001
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
please try not to let yourself sink to his level


Dood, he's not even trying...


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Now I know for sure the Latin does not have a brain or logic for that matter.


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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle

Bush = Lame Duck attention whore!

SOB can't even talk right......

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atbell
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Registered: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover
If the Chinese want to start threating the US lets Nuke them also. No offense if you havent figured out that China is our bitch you are living in another world. I dont want to sound so harsh but its the truth, I mean we are to soft with China. They love to play political games, they love to hack into our systems and its time we put them in their place


Really? That's funny, last I read it was the US that has been pleading (begging to the point of being annoying) with China to remove thier curency peg. Oh, actually I've been reading that for about four years now.

And what about treasury bills? China has something like 700 BILLION (700,000,000,000.00) US$ worth of credit. That means that Every US citizen owes the Chinese government about 2,000 $US. Yes, that's right, look at your passport and realize that it is actually proof that you owe the Chinese government money. Lucky you spent 2,000 dollars on cheap Chinese products last year, how could you have lived without them? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6106280.stm)

Then we get to the problems with "nukeing" a country. Let's just pretend that the US administration was using your advice for it's foreign policy. Now clearly they would empty thier silo's, bombers and submarine payloads in an intense campaign to destroy every inch of a country about the same size as the US. First of all the offensive would be detected. The Chinese radar, not to mention every other country in the world's radar, would see this masisve rain of missiles and have maybe five to thirty minutes to react. And of course the problem with missiles being detected flying to "Asia" is that no one really knows where they are going.

So now there is a world wide counter attack starting. The US is likely going to get hit by a couple of ICBM's from around the world, possibly have a few nukes that are already built and waiting to go off in thier cities get set off. I'll go with a conservative estimate and say that the initial provocation would bring down about 10 - 20 nukes on US soil.

Guess what, Miami is clearly one of the 10 top cities in the US. Looks like your policy is suicidal. Good luck getting elected to office.

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atbell
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Registered: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover
The Chinese are restructuring their military and they dont come near to have our technological military advancements.


Do you beleive this propoganda?

The main differences between Chinese and US military is the GPS and aronautic wings of the military.

How much have you studdied about Chinese military advancements? Do you think that the fact that they've built more subs in the past 10 years then the US has ever built might give them a bit of an edge?

Or how about shooting down satalites? Or using ground based lazers to blind satalites?

Or what about the military technology that has been specifically designed to target air craft carriers with nuclear warheads? That's not something that a missile defense sheild will be able to take down.

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atbell
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Registered: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by LatinLover


This is a misleading statistic. Nearly half of the US military budget is being poured into Iraq and Afgan., not to mention the amount being used to finance massive supply lines to troops stationed all over the world.

To my knowledge China has no (or very few) troops stationed internationally. There has also been speculation that they are financing military spending through other branches of the government to evade reporting the actual value being spent on arms procurement.

I think it wouldn't be a stretch to say that the military budget of the two contries, in development terms, is fairly simimlar.

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Dood, he's not even trying...


oh.... you REALLY got me there...


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