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Originally posted by basilisk I get a bit tired reading about the music piracy issue in a major label context simply because I don't patronize major labels... well, there's that and the simple fact that people in the underground often feel as if the content is still applicable. The situation is different with just about any electronic dance music style.

Exactly... piracy has been a big boom for the EDM industry (and therefore a threat to the pop music industry). I'm pretty sure most of the labels there are pop music. Go figure

Cor Version: Thank god your here grandmas been raped (by the major labels). I didn't pirate for a while then I realised labels are corrupt and I found oink. I'm sad oink is gone. Go buy merchandise and don't support labels. Generic future looks bright comment.

Although he might be saying what everyone has allready been saying it was well thought out and I certainly learnt something new. So even if you allready know everything remember those who don't.

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That article is very good at presenting the point of view of a consumer and equally good at pointing out solutions that major record companies could and should have adopted if they don't want their market share to decrease.

What is remarkably absent are solutions that benefit the poor fuck thats writing the tunes. It seems that if you are good enough to get noticed, you simply don't own nor do you have any control over your own work and how it is distributed. None that matter anyway. It doesn't really matter if the consumer controls those channels of distribution or the record label.

I'm not quite sure how the poor sap got into a situation where his or her work became the object of war between the consumer and the record label - 2 groups that didn't create anything but want to own it anyway. Preferably at the least cost to themselves. Ideally at no cost at all.

With the whole new digital age a lot of things like ownership, copyright and distribution has to be figured out. Not only in music but also with games, photos, movies and many more.

Because of piracy big labels were scared to invest in new talent. However these last 2 years new pop talent was found via myspaces and blogs. Hopefully big labels will see that these kind of sites can be a perfect enviroment to spot new talent.

However in the EDM because of the piracy sales dramatically dropped. This meant for producers that the fee they got per record decreased to a minumum. Now a lot of producer try to get as many records released and producing LOADS of tracks or they start performing live as dj's or liveacts. Beatport is essential to labels, and big part of the sales are digital. However in the big days of vinyl they sold loads more.

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Great read, I think most, if not all of us share the attitude outlined at the end. I'm struggling to think of any artists I listen to who are on major record labels though, er Massive Attack, maybe?

Beatport is a decent legal alternative to Oink for me, just have to be a bit more patient.

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Originally posted by Derivative What is remarkably absent are solutions that benefit the poor fuck thats writing the tunes. It seems that if you are good enough to get noticed, you simply don't own nor do you have any control over your own work and how it is distributed. None that matter anyway. It doesn't really matter if the consumer controls those channels of distribution or the record label.

He mentions ways to support the artist. I don't think even artists have much hope for finding a way to make an income off of their musical recordings, let alone consumers and distributors. There are certainly ways, but honestly, ticket sales and merchandise are the staple for artists, just as they always have been.

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I miss oink, the article could have just as easily been about any other music share that has ever been shut down though.

just got to "what now"... I need a break.

Wow, really, just wow.

Of all the places I posted this article, this forum had the most responses. THANK YOU.

Good to see traffic and people that care about music. Whether they read the article or not.


I've been in the music business for awhile now and right now I've never been more sick of the RIAA ever... EVER.

Here are some other good SHORT reads. I promise.


What Trent Reznor thinks OINK:

http://techdirt.com/articles/20071031/040022.shtml

How Brazil is embracing music piracy:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20071021/002050.shtml


Oh and,

Some of the replies here were funny, think I'll have to hang out here more...

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Originally posted by DavidArmant Some of the replies here were funny, think I'll have to hang out here more...

TA is just a barrel of laughs.