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Allayla
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Alex
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Montreal

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I'm gonna try and email labels directly now and ask for a copy explaining that I want to pay for it...


I've tried that, they usually answer "Sorry we cannot legally release to you a mastered copy".

But there have been a few times where they've been sympathetic and have sent me the tune, also got on a few mailing/promo lists that way


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Trance Android
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Birmingham, UK

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I'm gonna try and email labels directly now and ask for a copy explaining that I want to pay for it...


I tried that a couple of times with unsigned artists. I offered to buy the tracks via Paypal. Got nice replies but they didn't sell me the tracks (far as I know, only one has since been released).

Jarv I have about 3 sides of A4 paper of as yet unreleased tracks I'm still waiting to buy yet are freely available on P2P or naughty trance sites (the ones that haven't been closed down ). I have strong will power!

Old Post Nov-18-2007 19:35  United Kingdom
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SwerV
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Registered: Nov 2007
Location: Los Angeles

Hey at least you looked. If music is to be made then it needs to be made available on all fronts. The only thing i would make sure is that the quality of the song file is almost equal to that of your CD tracks.


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Max Thomson
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Registered: May 2004
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certainly don't go around telling people you're illegally downloading stuff, why would you want to be known as "that guy?"

pay for your music.


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Jarvmeister
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Trancentral

quote:
Originally posted by Max Thomson
certainly don't go around telling people you're illegally downloading stuff, why would you want to be known as "that guy?"

pay for your music.


If anything I'll be known as "that guy who tried to pay for his music but wasn't allowed."

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Dojomaster26
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Hickory

quote:
Originally posted by T-Soma
The fact that people keep complaining about labels territory restrictions is really start to piss me off.

Can anyone explain why a music label would willingly not sell to a particular region!?!?


Why is it so hard to change a few words on a piece of paper so that all countries can buy a track? Who's the person on the label that is stopping a track from being released globally?

Jarv: I feel your pain I am having a rough time trying to track down some bits of various J-Pop discographies, and its hard to find a (legit) copy of ANYTHING by some of these artists! This is extra retarded for the fact that I am looking for material that has been hugely popular in the artists' home countries, yet there are few, if any, offerings on any retailers or eBay. I shouldn't have to hunt for top-of-the-charts K-Pop like its an Beatles interview disc...


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T-Soma
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Registered: Oct 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Dojomaster26
Why is it so hard to change a few words on a piece of paper so that all countries can buy a track? Who's the person on the label that is stopping a track from being released globally?


The thing is that it is a battle between labels.
In one country, one particular label may have the rights to sell a track whilst in another country a different label has the rights to sell that same track.
They can't sell it the other labels turf

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Dojomaster26
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Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by T-Soma
The thing is that it is a battle between labels.
In one country, one particular label may have the rights to sell a track whilst in another country a different label has the rights to sell that same track.
They can't sell it the other labels turf


I know its a label rights issue for the bigger tunes, but why doesn't a track that's only being released on one label being restricted to being sold in the UK/USA/Asia/etc.? Is there some sort of RIAA fee for licensing songs for sale here?

I could understand a reluctance to incur additional manufacturing costs to press vinyl for a country that won't embrace the release, but now we're talking about a distribution system that has close to $0 in manufacturing costs, so there's no additional cost (maybe a few minutes of labor cost on the Web Designer)to change the values of a couple of variables on a download site's code

Before (with territory restrictions to US):
(

if (region == "EU" or "Asia")
{
boolCan_Buy = true;
}
else
{
boolCan_Buy = false;
}

if boolCan_Buy = true
{
addToCart(song);
)
else
{
displayTerrRestMessage(song);
}

)

After (notice the TINY change):


(

if (region == "EU" or "Asia" or "US")
{
boolCan_Buy = true;
}
else
{
boolCan_Buy = false;
}

if boolCan_Buy = true
{
addToCart(song);
)
else
{
displayTerrRestMessage(song);
}

)

I feel like such a nerd after typing that. Oh well, time to play some Magic...


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MERiDiAN5i2
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Texas, USA

If the label doesn't want to take your money, screw em. Not your fault they have a convoluted and bureaucratic business model.

However, I wouldn't attempt to use such material at a paid gig.

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Terrence Parker
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Germany

Ask the artist, most of them will send you the track anyway


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leph555
dementia depleted



Registered: Aug 2005
Location: City

quote:
Originally posted by Terrence Parker
Ask the artist, most of them will send you the track anyway


o rly?

which artists?


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