Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
actually, when i think about it, i find the US' departure from the westminster system of government to have created a really flawed democratic structure.
i agree
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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I've never had a problem with FLs tech support till this day. (I've actually never used it till this day)
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Originally posted by floyd741
i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.
Nov-21-2007 07:35
eROs.au
Chuck Bass
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Upper East Side
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you know what?
in australia, our political parties are funded by tax revenue, you get a proportion of the revenue based upon how many seats you win. of course parties can receive donations, but i find the concept of leaders having to raise money just to run for nomination to be the most insidious face of (economic) democracy.
our elections are much lower key, i think that leaves much more room for issues instead of advertising.
i dont like the fact youre not forced to vote either.
actually, when i think about it, i find the US' departure from the westminster system of government to have created a really flawed democratic structure.
Tax funding may not be such a bad idea actually. It always makes me ill to know that money will always win. Forced voting... eh.
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!
Nov-21-2007 08:35
nchs09
Traceaddict in training
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside your mum
i have never voted in my life. i cant vote here and guatemala does not have voting system for out of the country people.... and the 500 dollar ticket is expensive to pay just to go vote
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD
Nov-21-2007 15:33
Krypton
83.798 g/6.022x10^23
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
you know what?
in australia, our political parties are funded by tax revenue, you get a proportion of the revenue based upon how many seats you win. of course parties can receive donations, but i find the concept of leaders having to raise money just to run for nomination to be the most insidious face of (economic) democracy.
our elections are much lower key, i think that leaves much more room for issues instead of advertising.
i dont like the fact youre not forced to vote either.
actually, when i think about it, i find the US' departure from the westminster system of government to have created a really flawed democratic structure.
I agree which is why I want to change it!
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Nov-21-2007 15:58
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
Any democratic system will turn to crap when a sufficient portion of the electorate is either ignorant or evil.
Nov-21-2007 16:16
nchs09
Traceaddict in training
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Inside your mum
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Any democratic system will turn to crap when a sufficient portion of the electorate is either ignorant or evil.
no faith in the good of humanity?
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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD
Nov-21-2007 16:24
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
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Originally posted by nchs09
no faith in the good of humanity?
Lots of people are good, but few care enough to really do much.
Nov-21-2007 16:57
Krypton
83.798 g/6.022x10^23
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Lots of people are good, but few care enough to really do much.
It should be law that all voters should vote.
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Nov-21-2007 17:17
Frenchie
life in technocolor
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Intergalactic Planetary
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Originally posted by Krypton
It should be law that all voters should vote.
I strongly disagree. If you're not much into politics and don't follow the races or commercials, or rallies then why go and vote? You don't know what you're voting for, you wont vote for what's necessarily more important, and you could end up being the vote that fucks the good party over. Now, "good party" is different to everyone but if you don't know anything about politics, or not enough, then why make it a law to vote?
Nov-21-2007 17:23
jonSun
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Chicago CTA #77
Ive been voting since 96.
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Originally posted by Krypton
It should be law that all voters should vote.
While i agree all americans should vote, i dont feel the government should have the right to force people to vote. Instead maybe there could be a small tax incentive given to voters to increase turnout.
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Nov-21-2007 17:24
Krypton
83.798 g/6.022x10^23
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
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Originally posted by Frenchie
I strongly disagree. If you're not much into politics and don't follow the races or commercials, or rallies then why go and vote? You don't know what you're voting for, you wont vote for what's necessarily more important, and you could end up being the vote that fucks the good party over. Now, "good party" is different to everyone but if you don't know anything about politics, or not enough, then why make it a law to vote?
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Instead maybe there could be a small tax incentive given to voters to increase turnout.
That might be the best alternative!
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Nov-21-2007 17:38
Frenchie
life in technocolor
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Intergalactic Planetary
Hmm, For some I suppose. Spending countless hours reading, watching and talking about something that puts me to sleep rather than teaches me who is more fit to be the party for the next few years, isn't worth a little 2% tax incentive.